Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

It depends on how much detail you want.  I find it very easy to play in parts - the notes and rhythms require little to no adjusting if you use the right Q value in region as well as the score.  It is also easy shift between a master view of all parts, and individual parts.    The syncopation and interpretation parameters are not intuitive, but if you master them, it will make for far less beam and rest editing.

The part I find annoying is adding all the non-note symbols.   Slurs, dynamics, etc.  are not intelligent.  They're kind of just graphics that you drag onto the score and position wherever you want.  That makes it flexible, but difficult to maintain a consistent appearance throughout the score.  Also, things can become unintentionally attached to particular staves and therefore not show up in the right parts.  It's not a bug - just something you have to watch when placing symbols on the score.

So I would say that if you have a less formal environment where you can verbally tell the players what you want dynamically, it's super easy to make good scores.  If you need every slur, rest and dynamic marker in the right place, then you're in for a lot of work.   That said, I have never used anything but Logic for this purpose, so maybe it's no more work than it would be using the dedicated notation programs llike Finale or the-other-one-whose-name-I can't-remember-right-now.

Gregory

On Jul 13, 2010, at 1:38 PM, k_e_moeller wrote:

> I'm a decent orchestrator and have developed good-sounding MIDI orchestras in the past.  The idea here would be to use MIDI to hear and test the parts, and then edit and print out for the actual players.  Since MIDI wouldn't be used live, but actual live players, the click track thing doesn't pertain.
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> I was asking about the print creation aspects of Logic for live players, not the practicality of developing MIDI orchestration for live performance, which would indeed require a loud click track to all members of the band.
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> karl
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> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
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>> Of course you can do that in theory - but you will find it tedious for 
>> one thing. And how are you going to get the parts? There are rarely 
>> scores written out, so you would have to pick them out by ear. (Music 
>> majors will prefer to see scores.) Then once all that is done, you will 
>> probably find that they sound a bit stiff. Midi scores are rarely 
>> expressive - they are best in the background to add some color. Also 
>> you will be locked to playing along with the midi tempo so everyone in 
>> the band will have to hear the click track.
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>> That said, cover bands regularly have a synth player approximate 
>> orchestra arrangements. It does not have to perfect or complete or 
>> completely correct to give something of the right feel.
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: k_e_moeller <mkarl2@...>
>> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:37 pm
>> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Logic's Score Creation
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>> I'm in a tribute band, not a Beatles one, and it occurred that the 
>> really big tribute gigs go to those who can hand out scores to an 
>> orchestra.  There's a Beatles tribute called Classical Mystery Tour, 
>> and you should see their gig list.. impressive.
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>> So I wonder if the score software inside Logic could be used to create 
>> decent looking scores for all or part of a symphony, said compositions 
>> being those of the band we, uh, tribute.  I'm Mr.MIDI, and could 
>> probably play or step enter all needed parts.
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>> Has anyone attempted to hand Logic-created scores to an orchestra?
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>> I could approach a music major at our university, and might for track 
>> #1, but I'd like to try it myself.  I have Logic 8..
>> 
>> thanks
>> 
>> Karl
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