Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hi folks,

I get the following error message whwn I try to freeze my softsynth tracks:
"Attempt to position before start of file
result code = -40"

Consequently, the freeze audio will not be created (even though Logic treats the the track 
as frozen for any editing operations) and processing power at playback is not optimized.

Any idea what's wrong?

Thanks,
Michael

Hi there,

I have a Fender Strat with lace-sensor pickups (Red, Silver, Blue) which are
the original ones not the newer ones. As I understand it, lace-sensor have a
higher output. For now I'm using an Griffin iMic connected to the USB input
on my PowerBook. 

Does anybody know for sure if the output of these pickups is line level or
mic level? The iMic give a choice to select between line or mic.

I think they are line-level but I don't know for sure. Also, what
measurement of output qualifies as line level?

Thanks, 

Robert

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote:
> > I get the following error message whwn I try to freeze my softsynth tracks:
> > "Attempt to position before start of file
> > result code = -40"
> > 
> 
> Never asaw that. Did you move the start of the song? You can start at bar 0 
> or -1 or -10 or whatever. Or you could have a region starting at bar -1 but the 
> song start at bar 0. I would investigate that. You can go to the ruler bar, 
> and drag the start point left or right.
> 


Problem solved (in the Apple support database):

There is a 2 MB limit to freeze audio files.  For some reason, the sequence length of the 
file (song end point) in question was over 2,000 measures in length, even though the MIDI 
data ended at 40 bars. That much time of audio, silent or not, will be incredibly large 
bytewise.  Problem was solved by moving the song end point left to the real end of the 
note data.

Btw, I encounter these absurd song lengths often when some of my .mids are imported to 
Logic.  I don't know if the original sequences were saved with those track lengths or not 
(they were made in Opcode's Vision).  I can't imagine why they would be. Another related 
problem I've found in importing MIDI's is that some of the note-off values don't always 
import correctly, resulting in rediculous notes that are sustained for many, many bars 
(sometimes in the hundreds or more - going off right side of the matrix editor). These 
note durations all have to be manually corrected by dragging the end point, or retyping 
values in the event list (the latter method is fastest & simplest when the notes are really 
long or if one can't 'see' the end of the note).

I wonder if others have encountered any of these (seemingly related)  importation issues 
and if there is any other knowlege about it.

And also , btw, I'm still seeking for the 'simple' method of preventing plug-in reload when 
switching between multiple open songs.  Someone on this group had mentioned that they 
had heard of a way, but couldn't remember it.

Thanks,
Michael

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote:
> > Problem solved (in the Apple support database):
> > 
> > There is a 2 MB limit to freeze audio files.  
> > 
> 
> Thanks for reporting the solution back to the group. I think this is 2 GB 
> though isn't it? With stereo 16 bit audio taking 10mb/minute.

Yes, I believe you are right. Sorry about that.

> > 
> > Btw, I encounter these absurd song lengths often when some of my .mids are 
> > imported to
> > Logic.  I don't know if the original sequences were saved with those track 
> > lengths or not
> > (they were made in Opcode's Vision).  I can't imagine why they would be. 
> > 
> 
> Try opening them in the even editor. Probably there is some control event at 
> the 2,000th measure. Maybe that was the end for the song in Studio Vision, and 
> they had the style to put a control message there.
> 

You mean 'event editor'?

> 
> > Another related
> > problem I've found in importing MIDI's is that some of the note-off values 
> > don't always
> > import correctly, resulting in rediculous notes that are sustained for many, 
> > many bars
> > (sometimes in the hundreds or more - going off right side of the matrix 
> > editor). These
> > note durations all have to be manually corrected by dragging the end point, 
> > or retyping
> > values in the event list (the latter method is fastest & simplest when the 
> > notes are really
> > long or if one can't 'see' the end of the note).
> > 
> 
> You need to introduce yourself to one my most commonly used keycommands in 
> the matrix editor - the one that shortens the lengths so there is no overlap. I 
> forgot the exact name because i have been using my own keycommand for many 
> years. I'll look it up and report back. it usually works well in all cases - just 
> select all and correct note overlaps by shortening the lengths by the 
> keycommand or the menu item. At most you'll have the very last note to fix manually.
> 

But what does that global operation do to notes whose duration is intended to go beyond 
the onset of other notes?

> 
> > And also , btw, I'm still seeking for the 'simple' method of preventing 
> > plug-in reload when
> > switching between multiple open songs.  Someone on this group had mentioned 
> > that they
> > had heard of a way, but couldn't remember it.
> > 
> > 
> 
> I'd like to know that too. It can take a minute or more when switching songs. 
> And despite that, it seems that RAM is filled up quite easily when both songs 
> are open.
> >

Sometimes much more than a minute (it seems) in the case of EWQLSO plugs (well, it 
seems like much more than a minute -  a 'minute or more' can seem like an hour when 
you're trying to work).

MS

robert
unless they are active pickups it is very ulikely that they are line level
line levels are 1volt peak to peak maximum

howard

----- Original Message ----- 
From: rec 
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 8/18/2005 10:26:38 PM 
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Line Level or Mic Level For Guitar & iMic


Hi there,

I have a Fender Strat with lace-sensor pickups (Red, Silver, Blue) which are
the original ones not the newer ones. As I understand it, lace-sensor have a
higher output. For now I'm using an Griffin iMic connected to the USB input
on my PowerBook. 

Does anybody know for sure if the output of these pickups is line level or
mic level? The iMic give a choice to select between line or mic.

I think they are line-level but I don't know for sure. Also, what
measurement of output qualifies as line level?

Thanks, 

Robert




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