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two methods of solo

two methods of solo

2006-01-24 by GAmoore@aol.com

We have discussed here before the fact that there two types of solo - track and channel. And it can be confusing and frustrating to track down where the solos/mutes are at times. This even happened to one of the greatest Logic Pro's, Phil Jackson while he was demonstrating it to 40 people. At a certain point, he gave up, and opened another version of the file rather than mess around with it. Hopefully he'll give some input to the developers about that.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] two methods of solo

2006-01-24 by Maurits van de Kamp

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:34:59 EST, GAmoore wrote 
> We have discussed here before the fact that there two types of solo - track and 
> channel. And it can be confusing and frustrating to track down where the 
> solos/mutes are at times. This even happened to one of the greatest Logic 
> Pro's, Phil Jackson while he was demonstrating it to 40 people. At a certain 
> point, he gave up, and opened another version of the file rather than mess 
> around with it. Hopefully he'll give some input to the developers about that. 

Does this really have anything to do with the fact that there are two (only
two) sorts of solo (that can be distinguished in a fraction of a second by the
blinking mute buttons either in the channel strips or the arrange tracks), or
just the enormous amount of tracks (probably much more than two) ;) he was using?

The fact that you can solo both tracks and channels is not confusing to me at
all and in fact I need both, so I'd hate to see that functionality go. By the
way, you can switch off any track solo by switching off the solo in the
transport. If mutes happen to confuse you, you only have to option-click on
one of the muted channels and *poof* they're all gone. I'm not sure if a
similar trick works for solo, can't try it now (but I might actually have used
it already without thinking about it). :o) It seems to me that all possible
tricks to deal with lots of tracks and hidden solos.. the rest is up to the
engineer keeping a clear head.

Maurits.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] two methods of solo

2006-01-24 by Maurits van de Kamp

Hmm, I didn't write a complete sentence there..:) That should've read:

> without thinking about it). :o) It seems to me that all possible 
> tricks to deal with lots of tracks and hidden solos are provided.. the rest is 
> up to the engineer keeping a clear head.

Maurits.

Re: Re: two methods of solo

2006-01-24 by Nick Batzdorf

On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 03:34:59 EST, GAmoore wrote

We have discussed here before the fact that there two types of solo - track and

channel. And it can be confusing and frustrating to track down where the

solos/mutes are at times. This even happened to one of the greatest Logic

Pro's, Phil Jackson while he was demonstrating it to 40 people. At a certain

point, he gave up, and opened another version of the file rather than mess

around with it. Hopefully he'll give some input to the developers about that.



From: "Maurits van de Kamp" <maurits@...>

Does this really have anything to do with the fact that there are two (only

two) sorts of solo (that can be distinguished in a fraction of a second by the

blinking mute buttons either in the channel strips or the arrange tracks), or

just the enormous amount of tracks (probably much more than two) ;) he was using?


The fact that you can solo both tracks and channels is not confusing to me at

all and in fact I need both, so I'd hate to see that functionality go. By the

way, you can switch off any track solo by switching off the solo in the

transport. If mutes happen to confuse you, you only have to option-click on

one of the muted channels and *poof* they're all gone. I'm not sure if a

similar trick works for solo, can't try it now (but I might actually have used

it already without thinking about it). :o) It seems to me that all possible

tricks to deal with lots of tracks and hidden solos.. the rest is up to the

engineer keeping a clear head.


That's right. It's one thing to see obvious things when you're posting on the internet, quite another when you're in the middle of a demo and you have half your energy concentrated on projecting yourself to the crowd. Phil happens to be very good at that, but I think it's only fair to cut him some slack.

As it happens, I find the solo and mute functions to be a great feature in Logic. I love being able to mute individual notes in the Matrix editor. That's useful for a lot of thigns.

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Re: two methods of solo

2006-01-24 by GAmoore@aol.com

That's right. It's one thing to see obvious things when you're posting on the internet, quite another when you're in the middle of a demo and you have half your energy concentrated on projecting yourself to the crowd. Phil happens to be very good at that, but I think it's only fair to cut him some slack.

As it happens, I find the solo and mute functions to be a great feature in Logic. I love being able to mute individual notes in the Matrix editor. That's useful for a lot of thigns.



I'm not knocking him. I think we've all been there. Phil is a nice, funny and knowledgable. In fact, I saw BT give a demo and had a similar problem. At one point someone from the crowd yelled out how to fix the problem. I think Phil's issue what that he had muted a bunch of tracks rather than solo.

The mute and solo do work well in general, but there is the case where one thing is soloed and you have to go track by track looking for it.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Re: two methods of solo

2006-01-24 by Maurits van de Kamp

> The mute and solo do work well in general, but there is the case where one
thing is soloed and you have to go track by track looking for it. 


..or just turn the solo off in the transport. :)

Maurits.

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