Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Yeah, don't put your best songs up on the board uncopyrighted. You can 
copyright 

US Copyright Office                    http://www.copyright.gov/

or send an example song which is not your best stuff.

By the way, I have used the trick of copyingrighting 20 songs for one fee by 
submitting it as a collection. I have not checked recently, but as long as all 
the songs are by the same author, it seems to be legal. For example, you 
copyright "Songs of Logic Cafe 2004" which includes four songs "Talkin' Bout 
Love", "Ain't Talkin' Bout Love", "Talkin 'bout Politics", "Ain't talkin' bout 
Politics".

Maybe someone else knows something about this, but it seems like that gives 
you legal protection and then if you are going to release a commercial CD then 
at that point re-copyright them with any changes individually.

I used to be very trusting, but I had one songwriting partner, who turned out 
a bit sneaky. She couldn't play but took my recordings and hired a guy to 
figure out the piece by ear and copyright it in her name.

> I used to be very trusting, but I had one songwriting 
> partner, who turned out a bit sneaky. She couldn't play but 
> took my recordings and hired a guy to figure out the piece by 
> ear and copyright it in her name. 

Ouch! That is one of the worst ways to get taken - by a friend. Is there any
more to this story? I have some old songs that have lyrics from a girlfriend
of the time. If I thought the song was sellable, (What are the chances? I'm
not sure I could write a number that small.), I'd certainly track her down
and give her what I thought was a reasonable share of the profit and work
out the credits with her. Unfortunately, some people simply have no morals
or ethics at all. Sad, but true.

Kamm

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote:
> Yeah, don't put your best songs up on the board uncopyrighted. You 
can 
> copyright 
> 
> US Copyright Office                    http://www.copyright.gov/
> 
> or send an example song which is not your best stuff.
> 
> By the way, I have used the trick of copyingrighting 20 songs for 
one fee by 
> submitting it as a collection. I have not checked recently, but as 
long as all 
> the songs are by the same author, it seems to be legal. For 
example, you 
> copyright "Songs of Logic Cafe 2004" which includes four 
songs "Talkin' Bout 
> Love", "Ain't Talkin' Bout Love", "Talkin 'bout Politics", "Ain't 
talkin' bout 
> Politics".
> 
> Maybe someone else knows something about this, but it seems like 
that gives 
> you legal protection and then if you are going to release a 
commercial CD then 
> at that point re-copyright them with any changes individually.
> 
> I used to be very trusting, but I had one songwriting partner, who 
turned out 
> a bit sneaky. She couldn't play but took my recordings and hired a 
guy to 
> figure out the piece by ear and copyright it in her name.



Musical creation ia a gift from the creator and for those of us who 
posess this gift, life is an irony when thinking about how much 
people love to listen to the accomplishments but would take the work 
in a heartbeat and call it their own. In fact, at times I've thought 
close friends would steal my ability and leave me for dead on a 
street curb, if only they could get it. But, they can't have it, it's 
mine!! Have to be very careful with musical works, to have the 
ability to do it is also to take for granted that others could do it 
if they just wanted to. That just isn't so, so all the more reason to 
protect your work.
Gary

it is definately best to be wise with intellectual property. i took a 
class on the music industry and came out with the opinion that it is 
"rotten to the core" (clever continuation of the van halen theme :-)) 
they have full time cats that figure out how to squeeze every last 
screaming penny from the artists. sure the superstars get taken care of, 
but the history of pop has far more 1 shot bands than long established 
artists.

check out this article on Steve Sherrards web site

http://www.music-tech.com/recorddeals.html



gswerner2002 wrote:

>
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@a... wrote:
> > Yeah, don't put your best songs up on the board uncopyrighted. You
> can
> > copyright
> >
> > US Copyright Office                    http://www.copyright.gov/
> >
> > or send an example song which is not your best stuff.
> >
> > By the way, I have used the trick of copyingrighting 20 songs for
> one fee by
> > submitting it as a collection. I have not checked recently, but as
> long as all
> > the songs are by the same author, it seems to be legal. For
> example, you
> > copyright "Songs of Logic Cafe 2004" which includes four
> songs "Talkin' Bout
> > Love", "Ain't Talkin' Bout Love", "Talkin 'bout Politics", "Ain't
> talkin' bout
> > Politics".
> >
> > Maybe someone else knows something about this, but it seems like
> that gives
> > you legal protection and then if you are going to release a
> commercial CD then
> > at that point re-copyright them with any changes individually.
> >
> > I used to be very trusting, but I had one songwriting partner, who
> turned out
> > a bit sneaky. She couldn't play but took my recordings and hired a
> guy to
> > figure out the piece by ear and copyright it in her name.
>
>
>
> Musical creation ia a gift from the creator and for those of us who
> posess this gift, life is an irony when thinking about how much
> people love to listen to the accomplishments but would take the work
> in a heartbeat and call it their own. In fact, at times I've thought
> close friends would steal my ability and leave me for dead on a
> street curb, if only they could get it. But, they can't have it, it's
> mine!! Have to be very careful with musical works, to have the
> ability to do it is also to take for granted that others could do it
> if they just wanted to. That just isn't so, so all the more reason to
> protect your work.
> Gary
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> Musical creation ia a gift from the creator and for those of us who
> posess this gift, life is an irony when thinking about how much
> people love to listen to the accomplishments but would take the work
> in a heartbeat and call it their own. In fact, at times I've thought
> close friends would steal my ability and leave me for dead on a
> street curb, if only they could get it. But, they can't have it, it's
> mine!! 

Nope it's theirs. Once you release a creative work it becomes the world's,
it takes on a life of it's own, and becomes it's own thing. What you are
copyrighting is not the work of art, but the idea that someone else can
profit off of it, it has to do with the recording industry more than the
inherent-ness of the work itself.

Eddie
IMS



Have to be very careful with musical works, to have the
> ability to do it is also to take for granted that others could do it
> if they just wanted to. That just isn't so, so all the more reason to
> protect your work.
> Gary
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Nice thought, but if somebody used a couple measures of something 
that you've copywritten, you'd be finding yourself a lawyer pretty 
quick, i'd be willing to bet