Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I am wondering if other people do this... I actually prefer Battery to 
Ultrabeat but it works the same ... have three drum tracks - one with a kick set, 
one with a snare set, and one with another set used for toms, HH, etc.


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On 14/09/2006, at 9:43 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> I am wondering if other people do this... I actually prefer Battery to
> Ultrabeat but it works the same ... have three drum tracks - one  
> with a kick set,
> one with a snare set, and one with another set used for toms, HH, etc.

It's not a bad way to go if you need lots of different samples just  
to make a hat part for example. These days with mainly acoustic drum  
sounds BFD is all I need.


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Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com



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> > I am wondering if other people do this... I actually prefer Battery to
> > Ultrabeat but it works the same ... have three drum tracks - one
> > with a kick set,
> > one with a snare set, and one with another set used for toms, HH, etc.
> 
> It's not a bad way to go if you need lots of different samples just
> to make a hat part for example. These days with mainly acoustic drum
> sounds BFD is all I need.
> 

Battery comes with a bunch of kits, and I bought some of the extra sets of 
kits too. So there is quite a vareity of sounds. But then there is the option of 
using Battery as a multi-channel plug and doing that workaround by sending 
the kick and snare to separate audio object channels, etc. But it seems easier 
in a way to make one track for the kick - using a bank of kicks. I guess I need 
to experiment a little more.


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On 14/09/2006, at 5:13 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> Battery comes with a bunch of kits, and I bought some of the extra  
> sets of
> kits too. So there is quite a vareity of sounds. But then there is  
> the option of
> using Battery as a multi-channel plug and doing that workaround by  
> sending
> the kick and snare to separate audio object channels, etc. But it  
> seems easier
> in a way to make one track for the kick - using a bank of kicks. I  
> guess I need
> to experiment a little more.

That technique you mention is how I used to work when most of my  
drums were coming from EXS24 - but it did it well. You could load up  
6 - instances of EXS all with the same kit loaded and this would not  
use any more ram than having the kit loaded once - nor did it use  
much more CPU tyhan just having one EXS instance. I don't know if  
battery works this way. You would have to check. If it did then it is  
a very flexible way of doing things. I would work this way with BFD  
except it doesn't like running multiple instances...


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Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com



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I did this some years ago, maybe under system 9, but I found I needed to give 
Logic about 20mb more ram for each instance of Battery I used. The other 
option is to subset the kit - delete all but the kicks, then save as Kit13Kicks. 
Then load another instance, delete all by the snares, and save as Kit13snares, 
etc. So EXS24 maybe a litttle smarter.


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> I am wondering if other people do this... I actually prefer Battery to
> Ultrabeat but it works the same ... have three drum tracks - one  
> with a kick set,
> one with a snare set, and one with another set used for toms, HH, etc.

Hi GA,

It is something I do rarely- I am using Stylus RMX a hell of a lot  
and opening multiple instances is a huge waste of resources.
It is fine with other plguins, to a degree.
A lot of my sounds are from hardware synths still though so it does  
tend to change from song to song.

JR

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On 14/09/2006, at 5:47 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> I did this some years ago, maybe under system 9, but I found I  
> needed to give
> Logic about 20mb more ram for each instance of Battery I used. The  
> other
> option is to subset the kit - delete all but the kicks, then save  
> as Kit13Kicks.
> Then load another instance, delete all by the snares, and save as  
> Kit13snares,
> etc. So EXS24 maybe a litttle smarter.

Yeah. You could dump the samples from each instance that you weren't  
using on that instance but that's boring to have to do every time you  
want to set up drums. If it came to this I would rather just use the  
multiple outs through Aux objects approach.

BTW the reason I originally came up with using multiple EXS's was as  
a workaround from the days when logic didn't have processor delay  
compensation on busses and Auxes. It does now.

Kind regards


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Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com



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