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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts

2006-09-14 by Tim McLane

Does anyone know where I can get a good tutorial on using Logic's scoring for parts functions?  As I understand it from reading the manuals, there is a way to 1-assign parts, for example, 1 C flute, 1 clarinet, two oboes, 2 violins, 1 French Horn, 2-Play into the sequencer your parts, making sure that you are assigning voices correctly and then 3-PRESTO! parts come out on different staves, ie, can be printed out on different staves all transposed and ready for the players. 

Does anyone have experience doing this?  Do you know of a CD or video that I could buy or a  tutorial or other seminar that I could attend?

Help please!

Thanks,


Tim
   
   

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts

2006-09-14 by GAmoore@aol.com

I think you need one midi track per instrument. Then setup the score page 
with the proper staves (and I'm not sure how that works withe various horn clefs 
which are different pitches than written). Maybe you can make a custom 
autoload for this once you get it setup. In fact, there may be one already included, 
or available somewhere.

> Does anyone know where I can get a good tutorial on using Logic's scoring 
> for parts functions? As I understand it from reading the manuals, there is a 
> way to 1-assign parts, for example, 1 C flute, 1 clarinet, two oboes, 2 
> violins, 1 French Horn, 2-Play into the sequencer your parts, making sure that you 
> are assigning voices correctly and then 3-PRESTO! parts come out on different 
> staves, ie, can be printed out on different staves all transposed and ready 
> for the players.
> 



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts

2006-09-14 by Tim McLane

Thanks.  Do you know how you set things up so you can seperated the voices from a piano score?  ie, you play into the sequencer and then, somehow, you assign voices which then are split into different Midi channels.

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  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 12:19 AM
  Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts


  I think you need one midi track per instrument. Then setup the score page 
  with the proper staves (and I'm not sure how that works withe various horn clefs 
  which are different pitches than written). Maybe you can make a custom 
  autoload for this once you get it setup. In fact, there may be one already included, 
  or available somewhere.

  > Does anyone know where I can get a good tutorial on using Logic's scoring 
  > for parts functions? As I understand it from reading the manuals, there is a 
  > way to 1-assign parts, for example, 1 C flute, 1 clarinet, two oboes, 2 
  > violins, 1 French Horn, 2-Play into the sequencer your parts, making sure that you 
  > are assigning voices correctly and then 3-PRESTO! parts come out on different 
  > staves, ie, can be printed out on different staves all transposed and ready 
  > for the players.
  > 

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts

2006-09-14 by GAmoore@aol.com

> 
> Thanks. Do you know how you set things up so you can seperated the voices 
> from a piano score? ie, you play into the sequencer and then, somehow, you 
> assign voices which then are split into different Midi channels.
> 
> 
> 
There is some command for that...maybe split/demix by pitch or something like 
that. I am not confident you'll get the result you want, unless its a 
gregorian chant with four voices throughout the piece. a real piece of music with 
various lines will have times when one instrument is playing or four. What I 
would do, is play it on the keyboard, open the midi in the matrix or score window 
and select all but the top voice, and mute the notes. Then copy the whole 
sequence, and unmute the bottom but mute the top, and so forth. Then copy the 
whole thing again. eventually you will have one track for each part, then you can 
fine tune which instrument is playing which note.

you might want fix any mistakes in the midi first before starting this 
process. also color each sequence a different color, then open the matrix window and 
choose the option show object colors, and double click on the background of 
the matrix window to show all sequences at once.

another trick is to transpose each sequence (select all in the matrix and 
drag up a notch). Say first one is normal, second one is up one note ,third is up 
two half steps, and so forth. then when   you open them in the matrix you can 
see if any notes are covered twice or not covered at all. then re-transpose 
back to correct pitch.


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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Scoring for parts

2006-09-14 by Tim McLane

I'm doing a some arrangements for a band that has 5 horns and rhy section: alto,  bari,  tenor sax, trumpet and t-bone.  So what I've been doing is playing the parts into the sequencer with voices in mind, copy the sequence, erase the corresponding voices so that I get 5 tracks with all seperate voices so I can play them back, listen and check my work as I go.  Then I add dots and dashes, crescendos, etc, transpose and print.  Tedious as hell.  I'm looking for short cuts --- I'll try your suggestions.


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  > 
  > Thanks. Do you know how you set things up so you can seperated the voices 
  > from a piano score? ie, you play into the sequencer and then, somehow, you 
  > assign voices which then are split into different Midi channels.
  > 
  > 
  > 
  There is some command for that...maybe split/demix by pitch or something like 
  that. I am not confident you'll get the result you want, unless its a 
  gregorian chant with four voices throughout the piece. a real piece of music with 
  various lines will have times when one instrument is playing or four. What I 
  would do, is play it on the keyboard, open the midi in the matrix or score window 
  and select all but the top voice, and mute the notes. Then copy the whole 
  sequence, and unmute the bottom but mute the top, and so forth. Then copy the 
  whole thing again. eventually you will have one track for each part, then you can 
  fine tune which instrument is playing which note.

  you might want fix any mistakes in the midi first before starting this 
  process. also color each sequence a different color, then open the matrix window and 
  choose the option show object colors, and double click on the background of 
  the matrix window to show all sequences at once.

  another trick is to transpose each sequence (select all in the matrix and 
  drag up a notch). Say first one is normal, second one is up one note ,third is up 
  two half steps, and so forth. then when you open them in the matrix you can 
  see if any notes are covered twice or not covered at all. then re-transpose 
  back to correct pitch.

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