Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

You can hear the effect of Focusrite's LiquidMix in these small itunes files. 
I made a sample song in GarageBand using the stock components - one without 
the liquidmix ("BEFORE"), and one with liquidmix on all four tracks ("AFTER"). 
You can hear quite a difference. (You might need to login with a yahoo id, ... 
In the files section of the Logic_Cafe yahoo group, under Files > Liquidmix 
demo)

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Logic_Cafe/files/LiquidMix%20Demo/


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Hi GAmoore,

On 19-Dec-06, at 8:23 PM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> You can hear the effect of Focusrite's LiquidMix in these small itunes 
> files.

You can indeed hear quite a difference but the AFTER file has quite a 
bit of distortion.  Also, the mix is quite different between the two 
that it's difficult to make any judgement on whether or not the 
LiquidMix helped it or not.  I am assuming that the BEFORE mix had no 
fx plugins applied and the AFTER one did, correct?  Personally, it 
doesn't sway me one way or the other.  I don't know which is the best 
way to compare plugs such as these to others but I have found in the 
past that it is best when I can either sit down with a demo or try it 
out in the store (if a demo is not available).  Thanks for doing this 
though.

Fernstudio

The thing that makes it hard to try out, is that its a hardware/software 
combination so you can't download a demo version. And I never see this stuff set 
up to be played with in Guitar Center or Sam Ash. But Guitar Center has a 30 
day return policy.

One slightly misleading thing is that the levels are hotter with the 
liquidmix stuff on. I basically put one eq and one compressor on each of the four 
channels (drums, bass, guitar, and string pad). The AFTER shouldn't be that 
distorted though. Everything sounds more ballsy, present, warmer and fuller to me 
with the liquid mix.

One big problem for me, is that there are so many high end compressors and 
eq's and I don't know which one to use in which situation. 


> > You can hear the effect of Focusrite's LiquidMix in these small itunes
> > files.
> 
> You can indeed hear quite a difference but the AFTER file has quite a
> bit of distortion. Also, the mix is quite different between the two
> that it's difficult to make any judgement on whether or not the
> LiquidMix helped it or not. I am assuming that the BEFORE mix had no
> fx plugins applied and the AFTER one did, correct? Personally, it
> doesn't sway me one way or the other. I don't know which is the best
> way to compare plugs such as these to others but I have found in the
> past that it is best when I can either sit down with a demo or try it
> out in the store (if a demo is not available). Thanks for doing this
> though.
> 
> Fernstudio
> 



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Hi,

On 20-Dec-06, at 10:40 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> The thing that makes it hard to try out, is that its a 
> hardware/software
> combination so you can't download a demo version. And I never see this 
> stuff set
> up to be played with in Guitar Center or Sam Ash. But Guitar Center 
> has a 30
> day return policy.

My local dealer has a decent return policy also but I hear you on the 
situation of things being set up.  Many times it is the same here too.  
However, my dealer has a LiquidMix *and* a SSL Duende set up that I'm 
hoping to try one of these days when I have a few hours to burn.

> One slightly misleading thing is that the levels are hotter with the
> liquidmix stuff on. I basically put one eq and one compressor on each 
> of the four
> channels (drums, bass, guitar, and string pad). The AFTER shouldn't be 
> that
> distorted though. Everything sounds more ballsy, present, warmer and 
> fuller to me
> with the liquid mix.

Maybe I'm just sensitive to distortion but I found the AFTER file quite 
distorted when I listened to it.  I found it hard to make a good 
comparison because the levels were hotter also.  Human nature is to 
prefer the louder one typically.

> One big problem for me, is that there are so many high end compressors 
> and
> eq's and I don't know which one to use in which situation.

A nice situation to be in though. :-)

Thanks again for doing this.

Fernstudio