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Re: [Logic_Cafe] RE: Supersize Me : priorities and great rooms

Re: [Logic_Cafe] RE: Supersize Me : priorities and great rooms

2007-02-20 by GAmoore@aol.com

Back to the original request for a control surface, I don't find them as 
great as I thought because the controls seem fidgety or jerky. Its not really that 
bad to use a mouse on a fader the correct in the hyper editor.

I would list these things in importance :
1. decent headphones and/or monitors - but not expensive though
2. having a decent mic (e.g. Neuman 103)
3. an outboard compressor to tame sounds before the a/d converter
4. an inexpensive mixer to listen source to and from computer
5. some decent virtual instruments - depending on your style of music (e.g. 
Blue, FM8, Massive, etc.)

If you want to buy some plugs - maybe some channel strips like Nomad 
Factory's SC226, a decent delay like Timeless from Fabfilter or some of the PSP stuff, 
maybe some better EQ's. I like Elemental's Equium a lot. Oh, and Camelphat 
and CamelSpace are incredible bargains and very versatile. If you want IDM and 
creative sounds, then Reaktor is a must.

Then my best recommendation would be to worry less about buying equipment and 
more about making music. I have to remind myself of this all the time - use 
what you already have to its fullest extent before wasting more money. Logic 
actually comes with a lot of plug-ins which are almost as good as the one 
costing much more. 

Regarding the suggestions for a great room, first of all that depends on if 
you are recording a lot of live stuff, or working digitially. But what is a 
great room? The nice studios in the magazines seem to be large and have hard wood 
floors and non rectangular walls and ceilings. That kind of deal is virtually 
impossible for anyone without serious money. So the next best thing is a 
bedroom or garage. There are going to be compromises in sound, and construction 
perhaps, etc, and the end result won't be great. So I think most of us without a 
pro studio, have to make do in some way. 

In my case, I have a room thats about 11 x 11 feet. I bought some 4 x 8 foot 
soundboard panels and cut them in half to be 4x4, the stapled on some outdoor 
carpet on one side, and some auralex triangle baffles on the other. Then I set 
these up around the room to deaded reverb. Then I close mic guitar and voice. 
And add some altiverb later, and it sounds fine to me.

I have a hardwood floor and high ceilings in the living room and I have been 
thinking about running a long mic cable and long guitar cable to record some 
"live" room kind of sound, but the room is not all that big - maybe 12 x 16 
with 16 foot ceilings, so the natural reverb is going to be short.

I did upgrade my monitors from some Tannoy's I bought used for $50 10 years 
ago, to some m-audio BX5's which sound nicer and clearer, but ... when i mixed 
something down to mp3 and played it on my computer, it of course didn't sound 
anywhere near as nice, ... in fact the mix seemed different - with some things 
more or less prominent than how I heard them in the studio. so not sure if 
the enjoyable studio experience is translating into a good final product.





> I would just have to say that Steve is on the right track. Having a
> great room to record and mix in will do way more for your sound than
> any nice piece of gear. Start with that and everything is improved.
> Then get the Apogee Symphony system and Mac Pro and, In my opinion,
> you have a better system than protools.
> 



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Re: Supersize Me replies

2007-02-21 by pete_buchwald

Hey Guys,

     Can't thank you enough for all the input!!   Some very wise words uttered and I really 
appreciate it!  The Symphony unit is inviting for my purposes.

      I am tempted to get a medium/large analog console.

     Pouring money into the newest and best computer stuff is always a hesitation for me.  
It might be a necesary evil for our craft.  But just the way this stuff loses value so quickly 
drives me nuts!  My mac performa, bought for 1,000 bucks in 1995 went out with the 
trash in September.  

    So I'm wanting multichannel inputs to a good computer, if it has to be a quad G5, ok.  
Great pre-amps for at least 2 channels.  Great a/d conversion.   

     I think my principal market will be singer/songwriters who want to create demo or final 
production.  I have a lot of experience with programming sequences.  Was very impressed 
with how INSTANTLY my sequences improved with a good instrument like Stylus RMX, and 
Logic Pro 7.  

     I want the flexability to record up to 16 inputs.  But 98% of the time I'll be using 1 or 2.  

    GREAT thought about acedemic discounts!!

     I'm hesitant to buy virtual channel strips, I've been delighted with ColorTone Free.  
They made the free demo so good that I don't want to pay money for their pro version!  : )  

    Thanks again for all your help!  I'll be consulting all your feedback in the months to 
come.

    Pete

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