Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

Hey Guys,

Well it finally happened to me.. My drive containing all my logic files and my treasured 
samples went down. [of course I didn't back it up before hand...] 2 years of work and 
endless years of sample collecting.  I'm a major "geek" so I've repaired bad directories and 
recovered drives before, but this drive is really f*cked. It doesn't mount or even show up in 
the FireWire chain on several utilities that I have. I've got loud clicking when powering up, 
so the head is out of alignment, and probably needs to go in for data recovery [yikes !]  

My question is... Anyone out there ever have data recovery done on a drive before ? If so, 
are the returned recovered files "generic" ie: are the file types/creators lost ?  I'm hoping to 
recover my treasured Logic Files, so I'm not sure how they will come back, etc..  I can 
probably get the .aiff/.wav/.mp3 files to open, but if the file types, names or creators are 
lost on the Logic files.. I'm probably screwed...right ?  The Directory WAS in great condition 
before it went down. I run Disk Warrior all the time and did so just before this happened. 
Does recovery do a "bit for bit" carbon copy, or does it try to find the directory and copy 
over what ever data it finds ? 

Any help or even suggestions on where to send it for recovery would help, since I was 
quoted between $800 and $1200 for data recovery at tekserve in nyc !!!!

Thanx in advance!
Man Parrish
http://www.ManParrish.com

P.S.  Had a great time at the Winter Music Conference in Miami !  I got to be on a few 
conference panels with George Clinton from Parliment, DJ Paul Van Dyk, Felix the House 
Cat, Dj Keoki, BT {Brian Thompson] Also..The lead guy from Information Society,  the rep 
from Ableton Live, the Euphonics Mixer guy and..! I got to meet Grand Master Flash who 
came up to ME and said he loves MY stuff !!!  Wow was I shocked !.. lol ..Anyone else go 
and have fun or have good stories ?

I assume you ran Disk Warrior. The other program that works is Data Rescue. 

http://www.prosoftengineering.com/products/data_rescue.php




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I have no experience with data recovery services.  But as far as I know 
in OS X, if you rename a file in Finder and append a known extension, 
such as .lso for a Logic Song, then it will prompt you asking if you 
want to change the file type to the associated application.  So if it 
does happen to lose the file type, you should be able to get it back.  
Under OS 9, you can use a file typer tool.

Man Parrish wrote:

> Hey Guys,
>
> Well it finally happened to me.. My drive containing all my logic files and my treasured 
> samples went down. [of course I didn't back it up before hand...] 2 years of work and 
> endless years of sample collecting.  I'm a major "geek" so I've repaired bad directories and 
> recovered drives before, but this drive is really f*cked. It doesn't mount or even show up in 
> the FireWire chain on several utilities that I have. I've got loud clicking when powering up, 
> so the head is out of alignment, and probably needs to go in for data recovery [yikes !]  
>
> My question is... Anyone out there ever have data recovery done on a drive before ? If so, 
> are the returned recovered files "generic" ie: are the file types/creators lost ?  I'm hoping to 
> recover my treasured Logic Files, so I'm not sure how they will come back, etc..  I can 
> probably get the .aiff/.wav/.mp3 files to open, but if the file types, names or creators are 
> lost on the Logic files.. I'm probably screwed...right ?  The Directory WAS in great condition 
> before it went down. I run Disk Warrior all the time and did so just before this happened. 
> Does recovery do a "bit for bit" carbon copy, or does it try to find the directory and copy 
> over what ever data it finds ? 
>
> Any help or even suggestions on where to send it for recovery would help, since I was 
> quoted between $800 and $1200 for data recovery at tekserve in nyc !!!!
>
> Thanx in advance!
> Man Parrish
> http://www.ManParrish.com
>
> P.S.  Had a great time at the Winter Music Conference in Miami !  I got to be on a few 
> conference panels with George Clinton from Parliment, DJ Paul Van Dyk, Felix the House 
> Cat, Dj Keoki, BT {Brian Thompson] Also..The lead guy from Information Society,  the rep 
> from Ableton Live, the Euphonics Mixer guy and..! I got to meet Grand Master Flash who 
> came up to ME and said he loves MY stuff !!!  Wow was I shocked !.. lol ..Anyone else go 
> and have fun or have good stories ?
>

Hi...

Thanx, but I can't get the drive to mount or even be seen in the fire wire chain, so I can't 
get those programs to "see" my drive to repair it.  YIKES I'm freaking.. lol !



--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:

>
> I assume you ran Disk Warrior. The other program that works is Data Rescue. 
> 
> http://www.prosoftengineering.com/products/data_rescue.php
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>

...Ah ! Duh.. I forgot.. Thanx ! 
Under "get info" in the finder, I can also change the name/extension as well as 'associate" 
which program to open it with. I get cought up in some of the higher end stuff that I forget 
the basics !

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, klapton <klapton@...> wrote:
>
> I have no experience with data recovery services.  But as far as I know 
> in OS X, if you rename a file in Finder and append a known extension, 
> such as .lso for a Logic Song, then it will prompt you asking if you 
> want to change the file type to the associated application.  So if it 
> does happen to lose the file type, you should be able to get it back.  
> Under OS 9, you can use a file typer tool.
> 
> Man Parrish wrote:
> > Hey Guys,
> >
> > Well it finally happened to me.. My drive containing all my logic files and my treasured 
> > samples went down. [of course I didn't back it up before hand...] 2 years of work and 
> > endless years of sample collecting.  I'm a major "geek" so I've repaired bad directories 
and 
> > recovered drives before, but this drive is really f*cked. It doesn't mount or even show 
up in 
> > the FireWire chain on several utilities that I have. I've got loud clicking when powering 
up, 
> > so the head is out of alignment, and probably needs to go in for data recovery 
[yikes !]  
> >
> > My question is... Anyone out there ever have data recovery done on a drive before ? If 
so, 
> > are the returned recovered files "generic" ie: are the file types/creators lost ?  I'm 
hoping to 
> > recover my treasured Logic Files, so I'm not sure how they will come back, etc..  I can 
> > probably get the .aiff/.wav/.mp3 files to open, but if the file types, names or creators 
are 
> > lost on the Logic files.. I'm probably screwed...right ?  The Directory WAS in great 
condition 
> > before it went down. I run Disk Warrior all the time and did so just before this 
happened. 
> > Does recovery do a "bit for bit" carbon copy, or does it try to find the directory and 
copy 
> > over what ever data it finds ? 
> >
> > Any help or even suggestions on where to send it for recovery would help, since I was 
> > quoted between $800 and $1200 for data recovery at tekserve in nyc !!!!
> >
> > Thanx in advance!
> > Man Parrish
> > http://www.ManParrish.com
> >
> > P.S.  Had a great time at the Winter Music Conference in Miami !  I got to be on a few 
> > conference panels with George Clinton from Parliment, DJ Paul Van Dyk, Felix the 
House 
> > Cat, Dj Keoki, BT {Brian Thompson] Also..The lead guy from Information Society,  the 
rep 
> > from Ableton Live, the Euphonics Mixer guy and..! I got to meet Grand Master Flash 
who 
> > came up to ME and said he loves MY stuff !!!  Wow was I shocked !.. lol ..Anyone else 
go 

> > and have fun or have good stories ?
> >
>

I think this program will recover even when the disk does not show up 
normally. The only exception is if the drive has such a bad hardware problem that it 
can not be read in any way. I think that company Prosoft Engineering has 
several rescue type programs and I believe they have a demo you can download. You 
can download the demo and see if it sees anything. I thiink it limits you in 
how many files you can recover in the demo though. Its free to try, and a pretty 
cheap alternative to data recovery services which are going to cost hundreds 
of dollars.


> Thanx, but I can't get the drive to mount or even be seen in the fire wire 
> chain, so I can't
> get those programs to "see" my drive to repair it. YIKES I'm freaking.. lol 
> !
> 
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroLogic_C, GAmoore@... wrote:
> >
> > I assume you ran Disk Warrior. The other program that works is Data 
> Rescue.
> >
> > http://www.prosoftehttp://www.http://www.prhttp://www.phtt
> 




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Hey Gregory,

THANX !  I'll definitely give it a try. It's well worth the chance instead of the expensive $$$ 
recovery the other way. I guess the next thing to get is their back-up software as well. I 
feel like such a ham. I'm ALWAYS telling people to back-up and now it's my turn to go 
down.. So here's the "Public Service Announcement".. lol

Remember folks.. Don't be like me... ALWAYS BACK UP THE GOOD STUFF !  
[c'mon.. take a minute and set yourself a reminder..]

Thanx ...


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:

>
> I think this program will recover even when the disk does not show up 
> normally. The only exception is if the drive has such a bad hardware problem that it 
> can not be read in any way. I think that company Prosoft Engineering has 
> several rescue type programs and I believe they have a demo you can download. You 
> can download the demo and see if it sees anything. I thiink it limits you in 
> how many files you can recover in the demo though. Its free to try, and a pretty 
> cheap alternative to data recovery services which are going to cost hundreds 
> of dollars.
> 
> 
> > Thanx, but I can't get the drive to mount or even be seen in the fire wire 
> > chain, so I can't
> > get those programs to "see" my drive to repair it. YIKES I'm freaking.. lol 
> > !
> > 
> > --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroLogic_C, GAmoore@ wrote:
> > >
> > > I assume you ran Disk Warrior. The other program that works is Data 
> > Rescue.
> > >
> > > http://www.prosoftehttp://www.http://www.prhttp://www.phtt
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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>

> Remember folks.. Don't be like me... ALWAYS BACK UP THE GOOD STUFF !
> [c'mon.. take a minute and set yourself a reminder..]
> 
> 
It would be easier to back things up if they alllowed the freeze files to be 
stored in a separate area. I have a folder with subfolders with about 350 
logic compositions/ideas of some sort. But it won't fit on a dvd because of the 
freeze files. I do use the trick of making a "freeze" folder on a separate disk, 
then putting an alias to it in each folder. But I have to manually do this 
each time.



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