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taxi recording tips

2007-12-15 by GAmoore@aol.com

Here are some nice tips from Taxi.com :

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Ronan Chris Murphy

Ronan is a producer who has worked with King Crimson and many others. My 
notes: 

Don't sound mediocre like a bunch of midi tracks made by one guy in their 
bedroom. One way to make it sound high quality instead of like a demo is to add 
real instrument tracks on top of the midi. Use a real shaker, tambourine, 
cymbal or highhat. Get one real string player to do a couple of tracks over synth 
strings. Or use an unusual signature sound like a toy piano. Any acoustic track 
will add air to midi sequences.

Great producers need people to count on that are really great. Don't do it 
all yourself, get people on recording who are really great at their instrument. 
Get best ingredients for each instrument and mix, a strong team makes a great 
recording.

Match the vocal to the mic. Even with the best mics available, still uses 
mostly Shure SM57 and SM58. Solid state preamps can be better than tubes. On a 
budget, spend more money on a good mic, that's more important than a good 
preamp. A good converter is important.

Better not to use compression while recording a track unless you really know 
how to make it sound great. Pro's usually do compress going in but if it's not 
right don't do it.

If equipment is humming, try connecting everything through one outlet.

Never heard a reverb plug-in that sounds as good as an outboard reverb.

Constantly listen to other people's CDs on studio monitors to compare.

Don't use subwoofers while mixing (except occaisionally). Can cause crossover 
unless it fits acoustic room treatment.

The 808 kick rattles at 60 Hz.

Don't put too many effects in mix on vocals. Dry vocals sound more current. 
The easiest way to date a recording is the reverb and where the kick and snare 
sit in the mix. For reverb, delay, compression and EQ, the idea is sprinkle, 
don't douse. During mixing, add tons of compression. Majority of hit songs use 
analog outboard compression.

When you get to number 9 on the charts, it's such a great feeling. When you 
get number 2, it's such a failure.

RED=BAD
Never go into the red while recording.

Most tracks should be recorded mono, except overhead drums and certain 
instruments (string sections, some keys).

Sometimes double-tracking can mask a good track. Don't overdo it.



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] taxi recording tips

2007-12-18 by james page

> The easiest way to date a recording is the reverb
> and where the kick and snare 
> sit in the mix. 

Its obvious he meant using too much verb would make
the mix sound dated. But he was not specific about the
kick/snare. Any ideas where the k/s should sit in the
mix so as not to sound dated. They seem to have been
front and center for quite some time.
JP

Re: [Logic_Cafe] taxi recording tips

2007-12-18 by Duane Miller

I think what he was referring to is that the kick and snare are more  
prominent. Listen to some oldies 60's and 70's and you can hear that  
newer stuff has them right out front but still panned for the most  
part the same. FWIW I am not fond of rules so take this as current  
trends.
Cheers

On Dec 17, 2007, at 6:42 PM, james page wrote:

>
> > The easiest way to date a recording is the reverb
> > and where the kick and snare
> > sit in the mix.
>
> Its obvious he meant using too much verb would make
> the mix sound dated. But he was not specific about the
> kick/snare. Any ideas where the k/s should sit in the
> mix so as not to sound dated. They seem to have been
> front and center for quite some time.
> JP
>
> 



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] taxi recording tips

2007-12-18 by james page

--- Duane Miller <Duane@...> wrote:

> I think what he was referring to is that the kick
> and snare are more  
> prominent. Listen to some oldies 60's and 70's and
> you can hear that  
> newer stuff has them right out front but still
> panned for the most  
> part the same.

You're probably right but that advice seems so obvious
that i thought he might have been implying the
opposite: that the "in your face" kick/snare sound was
starting to sound dated. Ambiguous to me at least.
JP

Re: [Logic_Cafe] taxi recording tips

2007-12-18 by Duane Miller

On Dec 17, 2007, at 9:47 PM, james page wrote:

>
> You're probably right but that advice seems so obvious
> that i thought he might have been implying the
> opposite: that the "in your face" kick/snare sound was
> starting to sound dated. Ambiguous to me at least

Your right. Ambiguous it is. Im on his e-mail list and can say his  
advice is mostly geared at tailoring your sound to sell to his  
commercial clients. I personally don't use Taxi but I do get a kick  
out of his writing style. If your goal is crafting a commercial sound  
that can be used in media such as TV etc. than he gives some useful  
advice. I still think the best advice I ever got was "listen to  
everything" and have a similar style of music to what your working on  
cued up and use it to check your mixes while your working. Great  
reality check. Oh and don't forget to have fun.
Cheers



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] taxi recording tips

2007-12-18 by GAmoore@aol.com

I think the "no reverb" sound on vocals came from Hiphop, then came into the 
pop world. So it takes some other clever tricks to embellish the lead vocal 
without the verb. To a lesser extent the same applies to drums and everything 
else. If you listen to stuff from the 80's, it sounds drenched in verb.

If you want some really good tips along these lines, you might check out 
MILAR "MIx It Like a Record" by Charles Dye. Its a DVD, and although geared toward 
Protools, most of it applicable to Logic as well. He takes one song by a 
modern rock band, and dissects every track and every plugin on every track. Its 
pretty interesting! I watched it twice and found I had to take notes because 
there was so much info. You can get it on Ebay or Amazon, or search the web and 
get it new.

By the way, just tonight I just got "Recording the Beatles" - the $100 book! 
Its unreal how detailed it is. Its a treasure trove of information that 
explains every detail with graphics and photos. Its amazing. (An excellent xmas 
gift!)


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