Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I have just bought an Edirol FA101. I use Logic Pro 8, Macbook Pro,
Leopard. It works fine, except that I cannot control the input and
output levels separately. 

The main problem is only when trying to record and monitor at the same
time. The FA101 has a volume control that allows one to alter either
monitor or all the input levsls relative to each other but allows no
relative mixing of the inputs nor control of the overall volume. This
seems a pretty basic requirement. I cannot monitor through logic
because of the latency (or could I - if I knew the right settings?).

Can anyone help? I cannot find anything on the Edirol web site or
through a general Google search.

Thank you for your help ...
Mike

Mike,

Your email is a bit confusing.   If I read you correctly, the FA-101  
(which I know little about) can't do what you want, which is to  
control each input independent of the others.  For that, you would  
need something like the FP10 or one of the firewire mixers by Alesis  
or Behringer.  With the FA101 you have 2 choices - 1) use a mixer  
with direct outs as a front end monitoring unit, or 2) monitor  
through logic.   I've never been able to tolerate software  
monitoring, but many people feel they can get latencies low enough,  
and your setup should be more than capable of doing that.  So mess  
around with the settings to see if you can get it low enough to be  
usable.

I'm confused by that fact that you have this problem only when  
recording and monitoring at the same time.  Recording into Logic  
shouldn't change what I am reading your problem to be.  Could you  
clarify that?

Best of luck,

Gregory

On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:17 PM, michael107478 wrote:

> I have just bought an Edirol FA101. I use Logic Pro 8, Macbook Pro,
> Leopard. It works fine, except that I cannot control the input and
> output levels separately.
>
> The main problem is only when trying to record and monitor at the same
> time. The FA101 has a volume control that allows one to alter either
> monitor or all the input levsls relative to each other but allows no
> relative mixing of the inputs nor control of the overall volume. This
> seems a pretty basic requirement. I cannot monitor through logic
> because of the latency (or could I - if I knew the right settings?).
>



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Gregory,

Thanks for your response. Just to clarify a little:
- The FA101 has 10 inputs. It provides hardware monitoring. This mixes
all the inputs together and sends them to output 1 and 2 blended with
the output from the computer. 
- In the Windows implementation of the driver, the relative levels and
routing of the inputs can be altered, but not in Mac OS. The result is
that there is no way to control the relative mix of the inputs. 
- To make matters worse, not all the inputs have the same gain. 

This makes the hardware monitoring useless. This is not 'fatal'
assuming I can get software monitoring to work with no latency. This
would let me simply switch off the hardware monitoring. I am going to
try that now. 

I will also look at the FP10. Do you use a mixer to manage your
inputs? If so, what do you recommend?

thanks
Mike


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Gregory Anderson <glists@...> wrote:

>
> Mike,
> 
> Your email is a bit confusing.   If I read you correctly, the FA-101  
> (which I know little about) can't do what you want, which is to  
> control each input independent of the others.  For that, you would  
> need something like the FP10 or one of the firewire mixers by Alesis  
> or Behringer.  With the FA101 you have 2 choices - 1) use a mixer  
> with direct outs as a front end monitoring unit, or 2) monitor  
> through logic.   I've never been able to tolerate software  
> monitoring, but many people feel they can get latencies low enough,  
> and your setup should be more than capable of doing that.  So mess  
> around with the settings to see if you can get it low enough to be  
> usable.
> 
> I'm confused by that fact that you have this problem only when  
> recording and monitoring at the same time.  Recording into Logic  
> shouldn't change what I am reading your problem to be.  Could you  
> clarify that?
> 
> Best of luck,
> 
> Gregory
> 
> On Dec 17, 2007, at 4:17 PM, michael107478 wrote:
> 
> > I have just bought an Edirol FA101. I use Logic Pro 8, Macbook Pro,
> > Leopard. It works fine, except that I cannot control the input and
> > output levels separately.
> >
> > The main problem is only when trying to record and monitor at the same
> > time. The FA101 has a volume control that allows one to alter either
> > monitor or all the input levsls relative to each other but allows no
> > relative mixing of the inputs nor control of the overall volume. This
> > seems a pretty basic requirement. I cannot monitor through logic
> > because of the latency (or could I - if I knew the right settings?).
> >
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>