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Drums

2009-02-27 by showtunesbroadway

Hey

I'm very new to Logic (and music technology in general!!) but am loving it.  I'm using Logic to 
create backing tracks for singers and theatre using software instruments - and I need some 
very basic help...

I've bought and downloaded various drum samples - all different kinds.  Now - how do I do 
create drum patterns.  I'm not sure of the terminology....so I'm not gonna embarass myself!  
Can someone give me some tips, step by step!  And recommend some products to buy or 
download.


Also - in a similar vein - those bits of software that you apply to guitar sounds to do rhythm 
patterns.


Many thanks in advance for your help!!!

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Drums

2009-02-28 by John Kilgour

rtfm
On Feb 27, 2009, at 5:53 PM, showtunesbroadway wrote:

> Hey
>
> I'm very new to Logic (and music technology in general!!) but am  
> loving it. I'm using Logic to
> create backing tracks for singers and theatre using software  
> instruments - and I need some
> very basic help...
>
> I've bought and downloaded various drum samples - all different  
> kinds. Now - how do I do
> create drum patterns. I'm not sure of the terminology....so I'm not  
> gonna embarass myself!
> Can someone give me some tips, step by step! And recommend some  
> products to buy or
> download.
>
> Also - in a similar vein - those bits of software that you apply to  
> guitar sounds to do rhythm
> patterns.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your help!!!
>
>
> 



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Drums

2009-03-08 by Mibrilane

On Feb 27, 2009, at 3:53 PM, showtunesbroadway wrote:

> I've bought and downloaded various drum samples - all different  
> kinds.  Now - how do I do create drum patterns.

John's answer to your request was a bit curt when he said "rtfm", but  
reading up about Ultrabeat (p. 559 of the Instruments and Effects  
manual) is a good place to start. Always try searching for your answer  
in the materials you already have available to you (the manuals exist  
for this reason) before asking such questions. When you ask anything  
extremely basic and general like this, it tells everyone you haven't  
even bothered to do so.

> I'm not sure of the terminology....so I'm not gonna embarass myself!

You've already gone there.

> Can someone give me some tips, step by step!

Seriously? You expect someone in this message group to actually walk  
you step by step through the process of creating drum patterns?

Come on, now.

Message groups are for getting specific answers to specific problems.  
If you want to learn general things on how to use your software,  
invest in some training videos. I've found the ones at MacProVideo.com  
to be particularly useful, but there are many out there.

> And recommend some products to buy or download.

Ultrabeat is plenty powerful, but if you're looking at mostly  
triggering sampled material for drums, I myself use Native Instruments  
Battery 3 for that. It doesn't have a built in pattern generator,  
though, so drums are triggered by Logic's sequencer just like any  
other instrument. You can get similar results with Logic's EXS24 built- 
in sampler, but that's a general purpose sampler, whereas Battery 3 is  
optimized for drums (and comes with many excellent drum kits).

If you want something more along the lines of a drum machine (samples  
and pattern generator), FXpansion's GURU is another good instrument  
that I also use.

I would suggest getting familiar with Ultrabeat before considering  
other software - if it meets your needs, you won't need to buy  
anything else for drums.

> Also - in a similar vein - those bits of software that you apply to  
> guitar sounds to do rhythm patterns.

Perhaps reading about noise gates and side-chain triggering is a good  
place to start.

Pattern gates are an easier way to get the "trance gate" effect that I  
think you're asking about - there are many options found with a Google  
search.


Mibrilane
mibrilane@...



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Re: Drums

2009-03-08 by Gil Gillian

Yeah Ultrabeat manual is good place to start. In addition you may want to look at some real drum tutorials eg http://www.squidoo.com/lessonone  and get a better idea of what drummers do. Try creating these simple patterns and then perhaps altering things to understand they affect they have. You could also try listening to other peoples tracks and focussing in on the drums and trying to work out what they are doing. Good luck.
>

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Drums

2009-03-17 by David Cake

At 10:53 PM +0000 27/2/09, showtunesbroadway wrote:
>Also - in a similar vein - those bits of software that you apply to 
>guitar sounds to do rhythm
>patterns.

	BigSeq2 has just been released by Audio Damage, and it can 
certainly do this sort of thing as well as many related things (it is 
a gate sequencer type effect that can do 10 different effects 6 at a 
time, each separately sequenced. Their plugins are always excellent, 
and relatively cheap.
	I have no particular relationship with Audio Damage other 
than being convinced of their general awesomeness.
http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD022
	Cheers
		David

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