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Serial # for 9.1 update

Serial # for 9.1 update

2010-01-14 by Dennis Gurwell

When I went to download my 9.1 update, I was asked for my serial #.  I 
typed in the serial # that shows when I click on About Logic under the 
Logic > Preferences tab.  I got a message saying that that was not the 
correct Serial #.  I assume this is because this is the serial# for my 
Logic Pro 9 Upgrade.  They probably want my original Serial # which was 
many years ago.  How do I find out my original Serial #?

Re: Serial # for 9.1 update

2010-01-14 by gil_gillian

I had similar issues relating to to 9.0 and 9.0.1 update but not 9.1 update. On loading 9.0 I was asked for the v8 serial no. Then on entering the v9 number, when asked, with a simple cut and paste from my serial no file it did not work, but a retyping of the number did (both identical). On loading 9.0.1 there were various problems that did not allow the file to download, errors saying that software update was not required, however by persevering, it eventually did work. On loading 9.1, no issues at all. Someone, somewhere suggested an issue with /users/receipts, but I cannot confirm or deny. Be interesting to hear of any similar issues. BTW, hardware is both intel, and non intel, both with previous Logic installs.

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Gurwell <dennisgu@...> wrote:
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> When I went to download my 9.1 update, I was asked for my serial #.  I 
> typed in the serial # that shows when I click on About Logic under the 
> Logic > Preferences tab.  I got a message saying that that was not the 
> correct Serial #.  I assume this is because this is the serial# for my 
> Logic Pro 9 Upgrade.  They probably want my original Serial # which was 
> many years ago.  How do I find out my original Serial #?
>

Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?

2010-01-27 by GAmoore@aol.com

This article which is linked from Apple directly :

http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/01/19/logic-pro-64-bit-the-talk-of-the-namm-music-show/

makes this little comment :

"One problem plug-in makers face is with the Pace Anti-Piracy 
technology. Currently, Pace requires plug-ins to be 32-bit, so some 
plug-ins may take longer than others before making the move to 64-bit.

Pace declined to comment for this story."

Also the only advantage of 64 bit seems to be huge mega sample sets. 
However, I am suspicious that there may be a performance hit when using 
data twice as big or having processing on these double large integers.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?

2010-01-27 by Steve Currington

Check http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic107
Steve H does a very quick and rough  demo of the 64Bit Logic and shows teh advantage of 64bit plugins.

Steve


On 28/01/2010, at 5:16 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> 
> 
> This article which is linked from Apple directly :
> 
> http://www.loopinsight.com/2010/01/19/logic-pro-64-bit-the-talk-of-the-namm-music-show/
> 
> makes this little comment :
> 
> "One problem plug-in makers face is with the Pace Anti-Piracy 
> technology. Currently, Pace requires plug-ins to be 32-bit, so some 
> plug-ins may take longer than others before making the move to 64-bit.
> 
> Pace declined to comment for this story."
> 
> Also the only advantage of 64 bit seems to be huge mega sample sets. 
> However, I am suspicious that there may be a performance hit when using 
> data twice as big or having processing on these double large integers.
> 
> 



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Re: Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?

2010-01-28 by daveduffusau

Watch these videos and you may change your mind regarding your suspected performance hit ;-) 

http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logic107

Cheers!

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> 
> Also the only advantage of 64 bit seems to be huge mega sample sets. 
> However, I am suspicious that there may be a performance hit when using 
> data twice as big or having processing on these double large integers.
>

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?

2010-01-28 by Marcrease Hicks

I tried to change Logic to 64 bit, and I did not have the option to uncheck 32 bit when I opened "Get Info" of Logic.  I have Logic Pro 9.0.2, and I am running OS X 5.8.  Question, does this work only with OS X 6.0 and higher?
 
V/r,
Mr. Hicks

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Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 7:18 AM


  





Watch these videos and you may change your mind regarding your suspected performance hit ;-) 

http://www.macprovi deo.com/tutorial /logic107

Cheers!

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogro ups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
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> 
> Also the only advantage of 64 bit seems to be huge mega sample sets. 
> However, I am suspicious that there may be a performance hit when using 
> data twice as big or having processing on these double large integers.
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?

2010-01-28 by gamoore

Thanks for the link to the video site. However, after spending 5-10 minutes watching both videos, all I found is that they are demonstrating in a painfully slow way what I originally said in the first sentence of my post - which is that yes 64 bit is needed if you load sample instrument after SI after SI after SI. But I did not see anything about whether Logic was any more efficient in general. 

And in fact, it brings up another headache, and one of the main reasons why I am abandoning a lot of software instruments and plugins - because Apple changes the OS or Logic, and then your plugins don't work and you have to get updates. It says they will still run now, and even if this is true, I guarantee that Apple will soon drop support for 32 bit plugs in a year or so, and they will stop working completely.

Some companies are cool about this - like UAudio and PSP .... but other ones like Waves and NI make you buy updates. With Waves you have purchase thier "WUP" just to get the updates - maybe $200/year. And I have bought various versions of NI instruments to get a new version that works with a new processor or whatever, and then found that the old songs with those instruments won't open and I lose all my patches and arrangements.

I personally found its a huge waste of money to buy so many instruments and plugins - and to pare it down to a small number that you can stay with.


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Watch these videos and you may change your mind regarding your suspected performance hit ;-) 
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--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
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> 
> Also the only advantage of 64 bit seems to be huge mega sample sets. 
> However, I am suspicious that there may be a performance hit when using 
> data twice as big or having processing on these double large integers.
>



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Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-28 by bbgrove@clara.co.uk

I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose my
own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of chords
(unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).

Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for a
non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?

The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. To
my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player).  Any ideas, other than
find a bass player?


Thanks in advance

Andy B

Logic 9

2010-01-28 by bbgrove@clara.co.uk

Can I ask - has it been worth updating?

Andy B

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 9

2010-01-28 by Marcrease Hicks

I purchased Snow Leopard about 6 months ago, but I have yet to load it do to the horrible reviews I have read about OS X 6.0 making Logic lock-up and or crash often.  Question, I am using Logic 9, but does it suppose to update to 9.1 automatically?
 
Sincere Peace,
Crease

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Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:11 PM


  



Can I ask - has it been worth updating?

Andy B









      

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 9

2010-01-28 by GAmoore@aol.com

If you run Software Update from the Apple menu, it should find the 
update for Logic, as well as things like ITunes, and various parts of 
the system.
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From: Marcrease Hicks <marcrease11@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Jan 28, 2010 10:55 am
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 9

 
I purchased Snow Leopard about 6 months ago, but I have yet to load it 
do to the horrible reviews I have read about OS X 6.0 making Logic 
lock-up and or crash often.  Question, I am using Logic 9, but does it 
suppose to update to 9.1 automatically?
 
Sincere Peace,
Crease

--- On Thu, 1/28/10, bbgrove@... <bbgrove@clara.co.uk> 
wrote:

From: bbgrove@... <bbgrove@...>
Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 9
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:11 PM

 

Can I ask - has it been worth updating?

Andy B

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-29 by gamoore

Your requests are exactly why guitarists and bassists are not obsolete. Its pretty much impossible to take samples and get any kind of authentic and lively guitar or electric bass. they always sound flat. 

There are some plugins devoted to things like this which I have not used but I imagine used sampled strums or whatever. That might work for you, but they are canned. �For that matter you can buy loops of guitar and bass. However, a real guitarist has unlimited inflections and variety that give it a real sound though. 

And there is the matter of getting chord progressions or riffs - unless your song is all on one chord. Otherwise the transitions always sound fake.�

A lot of people use real guitar... and with good reason.



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Date:   January 28, 2010 9:10:54 AM PST
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose my
own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of chords
(unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).

Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for a
non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?

The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. To
my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other than
find a bass player?

Thanks in advance

Andy B





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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-29 by Eric Hightower

Andy,

I use Logic 9 and I play guitar and some bass.  I may be able to help.  You send me the tracks you want me to play to along with any ideas you have for the guitar and bass and I give you what you want.  Let me know.  Take care.

Eric H.
On Jan 28, 2010, at 12:10 PM, bbgrove@... wrote:

> I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
> part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose my
> own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
> can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of chords
> (unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).
> 
> Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for a
> non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?
> 
> The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. To
> my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
> no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
> keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other than
> find a bass player?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Andy B
> 
> 



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-29 by Steve Currington

Hi 

Can't really help re Rhythm/Strumming guitar but..

For a driving bass have you looked at Spectrasonics Trillian.
Pretty good plug-in..  Not exacly cheap but a worthwhile investment if you wil be needing to do bass likes often.
It can be previewed at http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilian.php
and at this location there are some video's.

If you have Logic v9.x you can also use some of the stomp box effects and amp effects to add some additional grind etc.

OK never exactly like a real playing human but probably as close as you will bet without and way way better than the Logic inbuilt ones.

Steve

On 29/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, bbgrove@... wrote:

> I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
> part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose my
> own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
> can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of chords
> (unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).
> 
> Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for a
> non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?
> 
> The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. To
> my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
> no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
> keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other than
> find a bass player?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Andy B
> 
> 



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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-29 by Martin

Totally agree regarding Trilian. Not only does it give realistic sounding bass sounds it is highly configurable.

Definitely worth the money in my opinion.

Martin



On 29 Jan 2010, at 18:28, Steve Currington <steve@singers.org.nz> wrote:

Hi 

Can't really help re Rhythm/Strumming guitar but..

For a driving bass have you looked at Spectrasonics Trillian.
Pretty good plug-in..  Not exacly cheap but a worthwhile investment if you wil be needing to do bass likes often.
It can be previewed at http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilian.php
and at this location there are some video's.

If you have Logic v9.x you can also use some of the stomp box effects and amp effects to add some additional grind etc.

OK never exactly like a real playing human but probably as close as you will bet without and way way better than the Logic inbuilt ones.

Steve

On 29/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, bbgrove@clara.co.uk wrote:

I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose my
own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of chords
(unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).

Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for a
non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?

The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. To
my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other than
find a bass player?

Thanks in advance

Andy B





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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-29 by GAmoore@aol.com

For $300 you can buy Trilian - and then eventually you'll pay more for 
upgrades. And you get a wide range of sounds, but its unclear how 
driving and dynamic any software can be. Or you can use the virtual 
instruments in logic for free, and try to grunge them up a bit.

Or you can spend $300 on a used Fender P-bass (mexican maybe), and then 
have a real bass with real drive. You can use the amp sim plugs in 
logic. And even if you don't play bass, you can pick it up pretty fast 
and get better results than trying to write bass lines in the sequencer.

Another option is to hire one of these guys on the internet. But it can 
lead to some money too. It was very nice of someone here to offer to 
record these for free, but if you have more than a few songs, that is 
going to get tiring to record all kinds of stuff.
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From: Martin <martinhmh7@...>
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com <Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

 
Totally agree regarding Trilian. Not only does it give realistic 
sounding bass sounds it is highly configurable.

Definitely worth the money in my opinion.

Martin

On 29 Jan 2010, at 18:28, Steve Currington &lt;steve@...> 
wrote:

Hi

Can't really help re Rhythm/Strumming guitar but..

For a driving bass have you looked at Spectrasonics Trillian.
Pretty good plug-in..  Not exacly cheap but a worthwhile investment if 
you wil be needing to do bass likes often.
It can be previewed at 
http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilian.php
and at this location there are some video's.

If you have Logic v9.x you can also use some of the stomp box effects 
and amp effects to add some additional grind etc.

OK never exactly like a real playing human but probably as close as you 
will bet without and way way better than the Logic inbuilt ones.

Steve

On 29/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, bbgrove@... wrote:

I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose 
my
own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of 
chords
(unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).

Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for 
a
non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?

The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. 
To
my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other than
find a bass player?

Thanks in advance

Andy B

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RE: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-29 by Steve Currington

Although in theory I agree I guess all depends on what you wanna do in both long and short term.

$300 is not that bad a buy for what you get and provides a very wide range of options not just a single bass option. 

Basic updates are fine and free it is only full version Upgrades that will require additional payments.

 

I have Trillion because I don’t wanna learn bass guitar at the moment..(although  it is one of my long term goals.)

Trillian is fantastic and provides assorted bass instruments including jazz bass, fretless, Chapman Stick, upright string etc..  And I simply would never learn all those.

 

But again a real player I will almost always be better but as a good (excellent) backup for $300 Trillian is hard to beat (IMHO).

(just check the video’s on the site and also on other sites such as the Sonicstate.com WNAMM video’s)

 

Steve
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From: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of GAmoore@...
Sent: Saturday, 30 January 2010 09:11
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

 

  

For $300 you can buy Trilian - and then eventually you'll pay more for 
upgrades. And you get a wide range of sounds, but its unclear how 
driving and dynamic any software can be. Or you can use the virtual 
instruments in logic for free, and try to grunge them up a bit.

Or you can spend $300 on a used Fender P-bass (mexican maybe), and then 
have a real bass with real drive. You can use the amp sim plugs in 
logic. And even if you don't play bass, you can pick it up pretty fast 
and get better results than trying to write bass lines in the sequencer.

Another option is to hire one of these guys on the internet. But it can 
lead to some money too. It was very nice of someone here to offer to 
record these for free, but if you have more than a few songs, that is 
going to get tiring to record all kinds of stuff.

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From: Martin <martinhmh7@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:martinhmh7%40yahoo.co.uk> >
To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Logic_Cafe%40yahoogroups.com>  <Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Logic_Cafe%40yahoogroups.com> >
Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 12:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

 
Totally agree regarding Trilian. Not only does it give realistic 
sounding bass sounds it is highly configurable.

Definitely worth the money in my opinion.

Martin

On 29 Jan 2010, at 18:28, Steve Currington <steve@... <mailto:steve%40singers.org.nz> > 
wrote:

Hi

Can't really help re Rhythm/Strumming guitar but..

For a driving bass have you looked at Spectrasonics Trillian.
Pretty good plug-in.. Not exacly cheap but a worthwhile investment if 
you wil be needing to do bass likes often.
It can be previewed at 
http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilian.php
and at this location there are some video's.

If you have Logic v9.x you can also use some of the stomp box effects 
and amp effects to add some additional grind etc.

OK never exactly like a real playing human but probably as close as you 
will bet without and way way better than the Logic inbuilt ones.

Steve

On 29/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, bbgrove@... <mailto:bbgrove%40clara.co.uk>  wrote:

I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming guitar
part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose 
my
own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far as I
can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of 
chords
(unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).

Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was for 
a
non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?

The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline. 
To
my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic, but
no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them on a
keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other than
find a bass player?

Thanks in advance

Andy B

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-31 by Andy Brook

>
> Or you can spend $300 on a used Fender P-bass (mexican maybe), and  
> then
> have a real bass with real drive. You can use the amp sim plugs in
> logic. And even if you don't play bass, you can pick it up pretty fast
> and get better results than trying to write bass lines in the  
> sequencer.
>

That's an interesting thought, but you seem to be suggesting that bass  
guitar is very easy to pick up and learn. Is that really the case? I'm  
not actually trying to use a sequencer to get my bass sounds, but  
playing it as live on a keyboard. My keyboard skills are pretty good,  
but still my basslines are sluggish, and instead of driving the song  
on, they seem to hold them back.



> Another option is to hire one of these guys on the internet. But it  
> can
> lead to some money too. It was very nice of someone here to offer to
> record these for free, but if you have more than a few songs, that is
> going to get tiring to record all kinds of stuff.
>
>
Well I'm going to take Eric up on his kind offer, but I do agree that  
it would be my aim to be able to be able to do it myself, not least  
because bass is so intrinsic to any piece that it probably needs to be  
put down fairly early on in the process

Andy B
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin <martinhmh7@...>
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com <Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 29, 2010 12:00 pm
> Subject: Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving  
> basses
>
>
> Totally agree regarding Trilian. Not only does it give realistic
> sounding bass sounds it is highly configurable.
>
> Definitely worth the money in my opinion.
>
> Martin
>
> On 29 Jan 2010, at 18:28, Steve Currington  
> <steve@singers.org.nz>
> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Can't really help re Rhythm/Strumming guitar but..
>
> For a driving bass have you looked at Spectrasonics Trillian.
> Pretty good plug-in.. Not exacly cheap but a worthwhile investment if
> you wil be needing to do bass likes often.
> It can be previewed at
> http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/trilian.php
> and at this location there are some video's.
>
> If you have Logic v9.x you can also use some of the stomp box effects
> and amp effects to add some additional grind etc.
>
> OK never exactly like a real playing human but probably as close as  
> you
> will bet without and way way better than the Logic inbuilt ones.
>
> Steve
>
> On 29/01/2010, at 6:10 AM, bbgrove@... wrote:
>
> I don't have access to any guitar players, and I need a strumming  
> guitar
> part in a song. It won't be soloed, but I do need to be able to choose
> my
> own chords. The acoustic guitars in Logic are a bit rubbish as far  
> as I
> can see, and the ones that add chords have a very limited range of
> chords
> (unless of course I am missing something, which I might well be).
>
> Can anyone suggest an affordable and reasonably good and simple was  
> for
> a
> non guitarist to get something that sounds reasonably authentic?
>
> The other thing I am failing with at the moment is a driving bassline.
> To
> my untutored ears there are loads of very good bass sounds in Logic,  
> but
> no matter how much I practice, they just sound like me playing them  
> on a
> keyboard (and I am a pretty good keyboard player). Any ideas, other  
> than
> find a bass player?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Andy B
>
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-01-31 by GAmoore@aol.com

well its all relative but bass guitar is not that hard to learn - to 
play simply. to play really well is not easy though. Check out some 
motown or Paul McCartenary on With a Little Help From My Friends. But 
to play basic rock its the easiest instrument. And if you have no idea 
of what a bassline should be, how will you program a bass line on the 
synth? Plus you might write a completely different song on the bass.

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?

2010-01-31 by Steve Currington

Hi Marcrease 
9.0.2 is not the full 64bit version and so teh toggle option does not show.
Get the more recent one   - 9.1..   A simple standard Mac software update will find the right version and automatically do the update (if you already have Logic v9.x).
Also for example check the plugin's  
I find that the 32bit bridge (for 32 bit plugins)  when running 64bit login is a little annoying but it seems to work but some plugins and instruments are upgradable to 64bit. 

For example. Spectrasonics Stylus RMX v1.9e I think it was updated Stylus to 64bit which is definitely worth the free update.  (Omnisphere and Trillian 64Bit is currently only Public Beta but the free update is due out within the month)
Or for another example EastWest's "Play" engine is now 64Bit so that is also cool if you use any of their orchestra etc products such as EWQL Gold etc.
You just need to check each plugin and instrument.   Apples "built in" ones are mostly just fine..  

Steve




On 29/01/2010, at 1:44 AM, Marcrease Hicks wrote:

> I tried to change Logic to 64 bit, and I did not have the option to uncheck 32 bit when I opened "Get Info" of Logic.  I have Logic Pro 9.0.2, and I am running OS X 5.8.  Question, does this work only with OS X 6.0 and higher?
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> V/r,
> Mr. Hicks
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> --- On Thu, 1/28/10, daveduffusau <dmduffus@...> wrote:
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> From: daveduffusau <dmduffus@...>
> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Re: Is 64 bit Logic really something I need?
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 7:18 AM
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> Watch these videos and you may change your mind regarding your suspected performance hit ;-) 
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> http://www.macprovi deo.com/tutorial /logic107
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> Cheers!
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> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogro ups.com, GAmoore@... wrote:
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> > Also the only advantage of 64 bit seems to be huge mega sample sets. 
> > However, I am suspicious that there may be a performance hit when using 
> > data twice as big or having processing on these double large integers.
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 9

2010-01-31 by Steve Currington

Hi..

I am running SnowLeopard with no issues whatsoever but that does not mean that everyone will.   I jumped in early and have nothing to complain about really.
Some folks had printer issues and some had external audio hardware driver issues. etc.  
I had no printer ones but my Motu audio device didn't like running in 64bit kernel mode.   It was an issue for a few weeks but all have now been solved and were within about a month of me changing over.   You can run Snowloepard in 32bit kernel mode (and it is the default) and most things - even my Motu hardware worked just fine.
You have to manually switch Snowloepard over to 64Bit mode (either as a temporary switch or a permanent switch) if you wanna run it that way.

I am also running Logic 9.x with no major issues again we all use thsi differently and so maybe some will push some boundaries to breaking and other wil push other boundary ies and some simply work within the "safely working boundaries".  So I can only comment from my activities.

Steve

On 29/01/2010, at 7:55 AM, Marcrease Hicks wrote:

> I purchased Snow Leopard about 6 months ago, but I have yet to load it do to the horrible reviews I have read about OS X 6.0 making Logic lock-up and or crash often.  Question, I am using Logic 9, but does it suppose to update to 9.1 automatically?
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> Sincere Peace,
> Crease
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> --- On Thu, 1/28/10, bbgrove@... <bbgrove@...> wrote:
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> From: bbgrove@... <bbgrove@...>
> Subject: [Logic_Cafe] Logic 9
> To: Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2010, 12:11 PM
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> Can I ask - has it been worth updating?
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> Andy B
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Re: [Logic_Cafe] Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-02-07 by Gregory Anderson

On Jan 31, 2010, at 2:00 PM, Andy Brook wrote:

>> t you seem to be suggesting that bass
> guitar is very easy to pick up and learn. Is that really the case?

I found it pretty easy.  I'm a long-time pianist who wanted to play  
bluegrass, so learned bass after failing at mandolin, guitar and  
banjo.  Like someone said, there's a big difference between learning  
bass and becoming a great bass player, and I will never be a great  
bass player, but as-is, I hold down the rhythm for the band and  
provide good drive, so I don't think you need to become a monster  
bass player to drive your songs (depending on the style, that is.).   
That said, I tend to keyboard in my bass parts for a lot of  
recordings.  My gear is cheap and my technique is sloppy, so there's  
lots of noise and other artifacts that I'd rather not have on a  
recording.

> I'm not actually trying to use a sequencer to get my bass sounds, but
> playing it as live on a keyboard. My keyboard skills are pretty good,
> but still my basslines are sluggish, and instead of driving the song
> on, they seem to hold them back.

Even though you are a good keyboard player, the problem may still be  
in the timing and the lines you are creating.  I find that simpler  
bass lines that don't stray far from I and V have more drive than  
more complex parts.  Also, make sure you're coming in ahead of the  
beat with some frequency (quantize is not your friend when playing  
bass lines.), and make sure your rhythm is doubled by percussion or  
rhythm guitar or something.   I spent years writing songs where every  
instrument was doing something very different.  Nice, complex,  
academic stuff with absolutely no drive.  I'm still trying to shed  
that habit.

Good luck,

Gregory

Re: Strumming acoustic guitars and driving basses

2010-02-17 by k_e_moeller

there is a strummed chorded 12 string MIDI sample included in the guitars in Logic Studio.  Depending on the octave the chords are major or minor.  I got a convincing guitar strum as a background element in one song.. I wouldn't put it front and center, but quiet and off to one side it was as good as an acoustic recording of same.

I do my own keyboard MIDI triggered basslines, if I pick the sample carefully no one ever asks if I played it.. they ask 'who played it'. 

karl

Message for Eric

2010-06-19 by Andy Brook

Very sorry to use the message board like this but Eric Hightower is  
working on a song with me and my emails are being rejected as spam!  
Eric, please contact me on another email address!

thanks and sorry to everyone else

Andy

Re: [Logic_Cafe] Message for Eric

2010-06-19 by Eric Hightower

Andy,

Please give another email address to contact you by.  Sorry to hear you are having this problem.  Hope you get it fixed it soon.  Have you tried anti-spyware programs to clean your computer.  Let me know.
On Jun 19, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Andy Brook wrote:

> Very sorry to use the message board like this but Eric Hightower is 
> working on a song with me and my emails are being rejected as spam! 
> Eric, please contact me on another email address!
> 
> thanks and sorry to everyone else
> 
> Andy 
> 



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