There are two good reasons I can think of to prepare a car to FIA specifications regardless of whether it is competing in the USA or not: 1. The FIA spec tends to be conservative and advocates for period-correctness over performance. Many folks think the FIA goes overboard in this respect, but the advantage is that a Marcos 1800 GT built to FIA spec will likely meet (undershoot, in some cases) the organizer's technical requirements for acceptability. Bottom line: you will likely be welcome at more events globally. 2. The FIA paperwork probably makes your car worth more because it is a sales plus when the car is sold if offered to non-USA buyers. Good for the Seller but this aspect is a minus from my point of view for our overall historic racing sport. Garry is absolutely correct to point out that it all depends upon where and with whom you plan to race your car. The most important thing to do, as he says, is to decide which race sanctioning group(s) you plan to compete and then ensure you meet their technical preparation and safety requirements. Strongly recommend you contact David Methely (Methley? Metheley?) in the UK... he has prepared the best FIA-spec Marcos 1800 cars to my knowledge. Dave has probably forgotten more about building a fast Marcos 1800 than most acclaimed experts know. It's been years since I raced over there but I'd bet he's still around. Also, if you DO decide to attain FIA papers, please understand that the historic paperwork and documents have just changed in the past 2 months for the 2005 season. There is an excellent write-up on the new 2005 FIA requirements in Victory Lane magazine this month by Alan Putt. Take a look. Believe me, having raced against Marcos 1800 cars like Metheley, Sewell, Tice, etc. in FIA and HSCC (UK) events)... a Marcos 1800 built to the limits / capability legally allowed under FIA specs is a VERY fast car indeed, and can run at the front against Lotus 26R Elans and TVRs, etc. To get it to that point requires lightweight bodywork, rear inboard discs, comp. gearbox, highly tuned engine, etc. How fast ($$$) do you want to go? Best Regards, Andy Seward 1966 Mini Marcos, soon-to-be-applying for the new FIA paperwork myself! >From: "Garry Diver" <garrydiver@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: RE: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:10:19 -0800 > >Hi Mike, > Are you planning to run in FIA events ? If you want to race in the US >the >FIA spec may not help as each club has its own rule set. If you can tell me >the organisation I can probably help. > >Garry > > > >From: "Jan M. Larsen" <janml@...> > >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>>Subject: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA >papers > >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:49 +0100 > > > >Hi Mike, > > > >If you want to have FIA stamped papers, then you have to get it from a > >local > >organisation associated to FIA and you then have to pay about $80 for it. > >But if you just want a copy then you can download a copy. In Denmark our > >local organisation called DASU has most homologation forms ready for > >download. > > > >The form/papers for Marcos 1800 you can download at this address: > >http://www.dasu.dk/Historiske-Homologeringsattester/Gammel/Retro-Hom_TrGrA_T > >rGrB/Retro-Hom/ > > > >Right click on the file 001-R.pdf and choose "Save destination as" (001-R > >is > >the number of the homologation form) > >The form/papers cover both the early IRS and the live axel model. The > >pictures are not good, but they are not much better on the FIA stamped > >papers.. > > > >Jan > >Regards from Denmark > >1800 #4048 > > > > > > > > _____ > > > >Fra: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...] > >Sendt: 28. februar 2005 07:04 > >Til: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > >Emne: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers > > > > > > > >Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800 > >GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site, > >page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the > >racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out > >etc. Any help would be appreciated. > >Mike Denman > >#4079 > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! 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RE: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
2005-02-28 by Andy&Alison Seward
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