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FIA papers

2005-02-28 by Mike Denman

Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800 
GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site, 
page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the 
racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out 
etc. Any help would be appreciated.
Mike Denman
#4079

SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

2005-02-28 by Jan M. Larsen

Hi Mike,
 
If you want to have FIA stamped papers, then you have to get it from a local
organisation associated to FIA and you then have to pay about $80 for it.
But if you just want a copy then you can download a copy. In Denmark our
local organisation called DASU has most homologation forms ready for
download.
 
The form/papers for Marcos 1800 you can download at this address:
http://www.dasu.dk/Historiske-Homologeringsattester/Gammel/Retro-Hom_TrGrA_T
rGrB/Retro-Hom/
 
Right click on the file 001-R.pdf and choose "Save destination as" (001-R is
the number of the homologation form)
The form/papers cover both the early IRS and the live axel model. The
pictures are not good, but they are not much better on the FIA stamped
papers..
 
Jan
Regards from Denmark
1800 #4048
 


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Sendt: 28. februar 2005 07:04
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Emne: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers



Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800 
GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site, 
page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the 
racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out 
etc. Any help would be appreciated.
Mike Denman
#4079





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RE: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

2005-02-28 by Garry Diver

Hi Mike,
  Are you planning to run in FIA events ? If you want to race in the US the 
FIA spec may not help as each club has its own rule set. If you can tell me 
the organisation I can probably help.

Garry
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>From: "Jan M. Larsen" <janml@...>
>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>>Subject: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:49 +0100
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>If you want to have FIA stamped papers, then you have to get it from a 
>local
>organisation associated to FIA and you then have to pay about $80 for it.
>But if you just want a copy then you can download a copy. In Denmark our
>local organisation called DASU has most homologation forms ready for
>download.
>
>The form/papers for Marcos 1800 you can download at this address:
>http://www.dasu.dk/Historiske-Homologeringsattester/Gammel/Retro-Hom_TrGrA_T
>rGrB/Retro-Hom/
>
>Right click on the file 001-R.pdf and choose "Save destination as" (001-R 
>is
>the number of the homologation form)
>The form/papers cover both the early IRS and the live axel model. The
>pictures are not good, but they are not much better on the FIA stamped
>papers..
>
>Jan
>Regards from Denmark
>1800 #4048
>
>
>
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>Emne: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
>
>
>
>Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800
>GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site,
>page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the
>racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out
>etc. Any help would be appreciated.
>Mike Denman
>#4079
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RE: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

2005-02-28 by Andy&Alison Seward

There are two good reasons I can think of to prepare a car to FIA 
specifications regardless of whether it is competing in the USA or not:

1.  The FIA spec tends to be conservative and advocates for 
period-correctness over performance.  Many folks think the FIA goes 
overboard in this respect, but the advantage is that a Marcos 1800 GT built 
to FIA spec will likely meet (undershoot, in some cases) the organizer's 
technical requirements for acceptability.  Bottom line: you will likely be 
welcome at more events globally.

2.  The FIA paperwork probably makes your car worth more because it is a 
sales plus when the car is sold if offered to non-USA buyers.  Good for the 
Seller but this aspect is a minus from my point of view for our overall 
historic racing sport.

Garry is absolutely correct to point out that it all depends upon where and 
with whom you plan to race your car.  The most important thing to do, as he 
says, is to decide which race sanctioning group(s) you plan to compete and 
then ensure you meet their technical preparation and safety requirements.

Strongly recommend you contact David Methely (Methley? Metheley?) in the 
UK... he has prepared the best FIA-spec Marcos 1800 cars to my knowledge.  
Dave has probably forgotten more about building a fast Marcos 1800 than most 
acclaimed experts know.  It's been years since I raced over there but I'd 
bet he's still around.

Also, if you DO decide to attain FIA papers, please understand that the 
historic paperwork and documents have just changed in the past 2 months for 
the 2005 season.  There is an excellent write-up on the new 2005 FIA 
requirements in Victory Lane magazine this month by Alan Putt.  Take a look.

Believe me, having raced against Marcos 1800 cars like Metheley, Sewell, 
Tice, etc. in FIA and HSCC (UK) events)... a Marcos 1800 built to the limits 
/ capability legally allowed under FIA specs is a VERY fast car indeed, and 
can run at the front against Lotus 26R Elans and TVRs, etc.  To get it to 
that point requires lightweight bodywork, rear inboard discs, comp. gearbox, 
highly tuned engine, etc.  How fast ($$$) do you want to go?

Best Regards,
Andy Seward
1966 Mini Marcos, soon-to-be-applying for the new FIA paperwork myself!
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>From: "Garry Diver" <garrydiver@...>
>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:10:19 -0800
>
>Hi Mike,
>   Are you planning to run in FIA events ? If you want to race in the US 
>the
>FIA spec may not help as each club has its own rule set. If you can tell me
>the organisation I can probably help.
>
>Garry
>
>
> >From: "Jan M. Larsen" <janml@...>
> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com>>Subject: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA 
>papers
> >Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:49 +0100
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >If you want to have FIA stamped papers, then you have to get it from a
> >local
> >organisation associated to FIA and you then have to pay about $80 for it.
> >But if you just want a copy then you can download a copy. In Denmark our
> >local organisation called DASU has most homologation forms ready for
> >download.
> >
> >The form/papers for Marcos 1800 you can download at this address:
> >http://www.dasu.dk/Historiske-Homologeringsattester/Gammel/Retro-Hom_TrGrA_T
> >rGrB/Retro-Hom/
> >
> >Right click on the file 001-R.pdf and choose "Save destination as" (001-R
> >is
> >the number of the homologation form)
> >The form/papers cover both the early IRS and the live axel model. The
> >pictures are not good, but they are not much better on the FIA stamped
> >papers..
> >
> >Jan
> >Regards from Denmark
> >1800 #4048
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Fra: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...]
> >Sendt: 28. februar 2005 07:04
> >Til: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> >Emne: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
> >
> >
> >
> >Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800
> >GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site,
> >page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the
> >racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out
> >etc. Any help would be appreciated.
> >Mike Denman
> >#4079
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

2005-03-28 by Mike Denman

Hi Jan,
Thanks for the information. I spent an hour on the FIA web site last night and found the file # for the Marcos but I couldn't figure out any way to get a copy (paid for or not).
Mike
1800 #4079
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 3:22 AM
Subject: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

Hi Mike,
If you want to have FIA stamped papers, then you have to get it from a local ;organisation associated to FIA and you then have to pay about $80 for it. But if you just want a copy then you can download a copy. In Denmark our local organisation called DASU has most homologation forms ready for download.
The form/papers for Marcos 1800 you can download at this address:
Right click on the file 001-R.pdf and choose "Save destination as" (001-R is the number of the homologation form)
The form/papers cover both the early IRS and the live axel model. The pictures are not good, but they are not much better on the FIA stamped papers..
Jan
Regards from Denmark
1800 #4048

Fra: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...]
Sendt: 28. februar 2005 07:04
Til: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Emne: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers


Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800
GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site,
page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the
racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out
etc. Any help would be appreciated.
Mike Denman
#4079





Re: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

2005-03-28 by Mike Denman

Hi Gary,
Thanks, I was helping a friend up north that was having some problems with his local racing group and they specifically asked for the FIA papers. I think he races his 1800 GT at PIR but I don't know the organization's name he races with. At any rate they are cracking down and trying to get the cars closer to their correct period specification and are looking at documentation. If he has additional problems I may give you a call. The friend doesn't use computers (unfortunately).
Mike
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Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers

Hi Mike,
Are you planning to run in FIA events ? If you want to race in the US the
FIA spec may not help as each club has its own rule set. If you can tell me
the organisation I can probably help.

Garry


>From: "Jan M. Larsen" <janml@ruc.dk>
>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>To: <MarcosManiacs@...m>>Subject: SV: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:22:49 +0100
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>If you want to have FIA stamped papers, then you have to get it from a
>local
>organisation associated to FIA and you then have to pay about $80 for it.
>But if you just want a copy then you can download a copy. In Denmark our
>local organisation called DASU has most homologation forms ready for
>download.
>
>The form/papers for Marcos 1800 you can download at this address:
>http://www.dasu.dk/Historiske-Homologeringsattester/Gammel/Retro-Hom_TrGrA_T
>rGrB/Retro-Hom/
>
>Right click on the file 001-R.pdf and choose "Save destination as" (001-R
>is
>the number of the homologation form)
>The form/papers cover both the early IRS and the live axel model. The
>pictures are not good, but they are not much better on the FIA stamped
>papers..
>
>Jan
>Regards from Denmark
>1800 #4048
>
>
>
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>
>Fra: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...]
>Sendt: 28. februar 2005 07:04
>Til: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>Emne: [MarcosManiacs] FIA papers
>
>
>
>Does anyone know how to obtain FIA paperwork for a 1966 Marcos 1800
>GT. I found a reference to it (Marcos 1800 GT) on the FIA web site,
>page 54 under GTS. The question is how to get the paperwork that the
>racing organizations require with the car specifications spelled out
>etc. Any help would be appreciated.
>Mike Denman
>#4079
>
>
>
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