Marcos Maniacs

Donny,

Well I purchased the Crane 700 system and am excited
about the prospects of installing it and getting rid
of the points.

Unfortunately the "stupids" seem to have set in at my
garage and I cannot figure out how to mount the sensor
in the distributor.  As I read the instructions it
says to remove the points and condenser and wiring to
the coil.  It is unclear if I am also supposed to
remove the points mounting plate?  Is the sensor
supposed to mount to the points mounting plate and be
able to move with the advance mechinism?  There does
not seem to be a straighforward way to mount the
sensor so it can be adjusted for the proper timing.

Is the mounting of the sensor an easy bolt in
procedure or am I supposed to fabricate some sort of
Rube Goldberg bracket system to get it mounted?  ...or
am I making this harder than it needs to be?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Bob Magotti


--- Donny Lang <indigo@...> wrote:

> Bob, I can't verify which Crane ignition is needed
> for your distributor , but a "universal" 700-0231
> kit has worked well for conversions in the past.
> Call the Crane tech number at (386) 258-6174 to try
> to confirm your needs. They carry both the XR 700
> and XR 3000 systems. I have always used the less
> expensive XR 700, so can't comment on the pricier
> one. The kits consist of a light beam/shutter wheel
> for under the distributor cap, and an electronics
> box about twice the size of a pack of cigarettes to
> be mounted in the engine compartment. By the way, I
> haven't had problems with tach function when I have
> used these. I hope this helps.      - Donny
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Bob Magnotti 
>   To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:24 AM
>   Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Conversion to
> pointless ignition
> 
> 
>   Without removing the manifold and carburetors I
> looked
>   at the Distributor this morning and the only
> numbers I
>   can see on it are 41882 A 59D4
> 
>   Are these the numbers I need to determine which
> kit is
>   needed for the conversion?
> 
>   Bob Magnotti
> 
>   --- Donny Lang <indigo@...> wrote:
> 
>   > Richard and Paul,
>   > I too can vouch for the reliability of the Crane
>   > ignition systems. I've had a Crane XR 700 in my
> TR8
>   > for over 12 years and it has been absolutely
>   > flawless. That system replaced a Pertrinix
> system
>   > that lasted less than a week. I've used the
>   > Luminition system in a few cars for
>   > friend/customers, but they have not lasted as
> long
>   > as the Crane ignitions, typically only a couple
>   > years. To date, I have never had a failure of a
>   > Crane XR 700 or 7000 out of nearly a dozen
> installed
>   > on various vehicles. The only ignition that
>   > surpasses the Crane for reliability is a Piranah
>   > system I put on my Dad's BMW 2002 back in 1977.
> I
>   > still have the car and it will sometimes still
> start
>   > by just turning the ignition on- no starter! You
> can
>   > hear the spark plugs zapping in the cylinder. I
>   > haven't seen another one of these is close to 25
>   > years.
>   > -Donny 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: Paul Dransfield 
>   > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 11:14 AM
>   > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Conversion to
>   > pointless ignition
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Hi Richard,
>   > 
>   > I originally had a Petronics system in my car
> but
>   > it failed after only a couple of years. I bought
> the
>   > system in England a long time ago. That was when
> I
>   > thought I'd switched to Lumenition. Just goes to
>   > show how l trouble free my ignition systems has
> been
>   > over the last ten years because I just went to
>   > double check my installation on the car and
> realized
>   > I had intended to install a Lumenition system
> but
>   > opted for a Crame Cams XR700 system instead.
> That's
>   > the system I've had for 10 years without a
> single
>   > glitch. It's been so long since I installed it,
> I'd
>   > forgotten what system I actually had. I'm sorry
> for
>   > the previous misleading info but at least I have
> it
>   > right now. 
>   > 
>   > For the information of any 3 litre Volvo owners,
> I
>   > don't have the standard Volvo 160 distributor
>   > because my car has a high performance engine
> putting
>   > out 235 bhp and the distributor which came with
> it
>   > doesn't have vacuum connections. It's much
> larger
>   > than the standard one because the internal
>   > components are more substantial. 
>   > 
>   > However, Crane Cams have an XR700 universal
>   > installation kit to fit any 4, 6 or 8 cylinder
>   > distributor. Just go to this page on their
> website -
>   >
>  
>
http://www.cranecams.com/?show=browseParts&lvl=3&prt=182
>   > - where they list the various manufacturers. For
>   > Ford, they list products for applications as far
>   > back as 1960. I'm sure the have something for
> any of
>   > the Marcos Ford or Volvo engines.
>   > 
>   > Regards,
>   > 
>   > Paul Dransfield
>   > 3 litre Volvo
>   > 
>   > ----- Original Message -----
>   > From: "Richard Porter" 
>   > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>   > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Conversion to
>   > pointless ignition
>   > Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 10:53:45 +0100
>   > 
>   > 
>   > On 13 May 2007 Garry Diver wrote:
>   > 
>   > > Try Luminition. It works with the Tach.
>   > 
>   > > Garry
>   > 
>   > >>From: "Bob M" <rhdspritemk1@...>
>   > >>Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>   > >>To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
>   > >>Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Conversion to
>   > pointless ignition
>   > >>Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 15:07:27 -0000
>   > >>
>   > >>I have been trying to find the proper
>   > conversion kit for my 1600GT. I
>   > >>want to get rid of the points in the Lucas
>   > distributor which are hard
>   > >>to adjust because my car has the twin weber
>   > set up.
>   > >>
>   > >>Have any of the 1600 GT owners converted to
>   > one of these kits, and if
>   > >>so does your tach still work with the kit? I
>   > have been trying to get
>   > >>one of the kits for a while and to date I
>   > cannot find a kit that will
>   > >>work with the Smiths Tach.
>   > 
>   > There are different types of Smiths tacho. Some
>   > are wired just by 
>   > passing the LT coil wire (either side) through
>   > an induction loop, 
>   > while others require a direct connection to the
>   > contact breaker side 
>   > of the coil.
>   > 
>   > However, whilst Lumention should work with both
>   > types, I would 
>   > actually recomment the Petronics Ignitor
>   > (marketed by Aldon in the UK) 
>   > which fits inside the Lucas distributor and has
>   > a magnetic collar that 
>   > fits around the shaft under the rotor arm. It
>   > uses the Hall effect 
>   > rather than an optical sensor.
>   > 
>   > -- 
>   > _
>   > |_|. _ Richard Porter
>   > http://www.minijem.plus.com/
>   > |\_||_ mailto:ricp@...
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > -- 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
>   > 
> 
>  
>
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