Marcos Maniacs

Hi All,
I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that we
might need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me,
if I step on anyone's toes!)
 
OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
 
First:
Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked "Marcos
Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
 
Second:
If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man with
Colin (and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate
efforts on this side.
 
Third:
We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge of the
contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
 
Forth:
We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is going
to cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're up
for.
(This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if applicable?), and
shipping to the US)
Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have them
shipped to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them
shipped to each location from the UK.
 
Am I forgetting anything????
 
Jeff
#8052

1600 GT Chassis #5239 here
Yes, I'd like a rear glass (screen) BUT I am based in UK,
Still if it helps make it viable and brings the price down count me 
in.
Paul

Hi guys,
 
Having gone through this exercise quite recently, I thought it appropriate
to add my two cents worth regarding this venture:-
 
1.    The size of the crate required to transport two screens was quite
large, around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide. 
 
2.    It would make sense to order all the screens at the same time, but
have them crated and shipped in groups depending on final destination. The
shipping cost is based on volume and weight so it wouldn't cost much more to
separate them that way, bearing in mind that my crate was bearly manageable
by two people.
 
3.    By shipping them to their final destinations directly, Canadian
purchasers, for instance, would not have to incur two customs costs etc. and
the coordinator wouldn't have to be concerned about forwarding the screens
on, which would increasing the cost substantially.
 
4.    The biggest problem I had was getting the screens made and having them
available for shipping. That took months. Months!!! The shipper I used had
them in my hands about two weeks after they were available. Once they
arrive, clearing customs is a snap and pickup straightforward as long the
truck is large enough.
 
Colin Feyerabend is the appropriate person to contact regarding the ordering
of the screens but it wouldn't hurt if someone else was available in the UK
to expedite matters. And for those with plastic rear screens mulling it
over, the glass ones are significantly, significantly, better and it would
be well worth the cost of joining this venture, particularly as the cost
would probably be somewhat less than if one was acquired later by itself.
 
For what it's worth.
 
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: June 17, 2002 9:29 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!


Hi All,
I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that we might
need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me, if I step
on anyone's toes!)
 
OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
 
First:
Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked "Marcos
Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
 
Second:
If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man with Colin
(and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate efforts on
this side.
 
Third:
We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge of the
contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
 
Forth:
We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is going to
cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're up for.
(This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if applicable?), and
shipping to the US)
Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have them shipped
to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them shipped to
each location from the UK.
 
Am I forgetting anything????
 
Jeff
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1.        The size of the crate required to transport two screens was
quite large, around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide. 
Great information! Thanks Paul!
 
2.    It would make sense to order all the screens at the same time, but
have them crated and shipped in groups depending on final destination.
The shipping cost is based on volume and weight so it wouldn't cost much
more to separate them that way, bearing in mind that my crate was bearly
manageable by two people.
 
2.        By shipping them to their final destinations directly,
Canadian purchasers, for instance, would not have to incur two customs
costs etc. and the coordinator wouldn't have to be concerned about
forwarding the screens on, which would increasing the cost
substantially.
I agree with both of these points! It would certainly be more efficient
and cost effective to have them shipped directly to the end
destinations.
 
3.        The biggest problem I had was getting the screens made and
having them available for shipping. That took months. Months!!! The
shipper I used had them in my hands about two weeks after they were
available. Once they arrive, clearing customs is a snap and pickup
straightforward as long the truck is large enough.
Do you think if we get together a large enough order, they will expedite
the manufacturing process? I can understand it taking a while on a
one-off order, but maybe it will get more attention if there are several
involved.
Oh... and did it come directly to you, or did you have to pick it up at
some importation point (since you made the "clearing customs" statement?
 
Colin Feyerabend is the appropriate person to contact regarding the
ordering of the screens but it wouldn't hurt if someone else was
available in the UK to expedite matters. And for those with plastic rear
screens mulling it over, the glass ones are significantly,
significantly, better and it would be well worth the cost of joining
this venture, particularly as the cost would probably be somewhat less
than if one was acquired later by itself.
I agree here too. It would be most helpful if we had someone in the UK
to "supervise" matters.
 
Anyone else want to add to this?
 
Jeff
#8052

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: June 17, 2002 9:29 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
Hi All,
I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that we
might need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me,
if I step on anyone's toes!)
 
OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
 
First:
Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked "Marcos
Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
 
Second:
If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man with
Colin (and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate
efforts on this side.
 
Third:
We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge of the
contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
 
Forth:
We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is going
to cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're up
for.
(This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if applicable?), and
shipping to the US)
Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have them
shipped to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them
shipped to each location from the UK.
 
Am I forgetting anything????
 
Jeff
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Team
	I would be interested in a rear glass also and if the price is not
in outer space possible a front glass also.
	Stephen Spalding 
	2T5916

-----Original Message-----
From: pverdeyen [mailto:pverdeyen@...]
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 9:16 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Marcos Glass!!!


1600 GT Chassis #5239 here
Yes, I'd like a rear glass (screen) BUT I am based in UK,
Still if it helps make it viable and brings the price down count me 
in.
Paul



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Hi Jeff,
 
A large component of the delay in acquiring the two screens for Ron and me
was due to the reluctance of the manufacturer to produce only a couple of
screens. Undoubtedly, if an order came in for 5 front screens and 5 rear
screens or more, the order would receive greater attention. 
 
It was a personal choice, to limit the total cost, to clear customs myself
and take delivery of the crate (in our case from a bonded warehouse located
at the Toronto airport even though it came by sea) with the aid of a truck
owned by a friend of Ron. For a price, I'm sure we could have arranged to
have the crate delivered to our doorstep. However, the clearing and
transportation cost from the warehouse would have been disproportionately
higher than the shipping cost. That's probably on of the reasons why Mike
Denman had such a high total cost, which by my calculator was around 3 times
the price paid by Ron and I.
 
Regards,
                Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: June 17, 2002 1:03 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!


 
1.        The size of the crate required to transport two screens was quite
large, around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide. 
Great information! Thanks Paul!
 
2.    It would make sense to order all the screens at the same time, but
have them crated and shipped in groups depending on final destination. The
shipping cost is based on volume and weight so it wouldn't cost much more to
separate them that way, bearing in mind that my crate was bearly manageable
by two people.
 
2.        By shipping them to their final destinations directly, Canadian
purchasers, for instance, would not have to incur two customs costs etc. and
the coordinator wouldn't have to be concerned about forwarding the screens
on, which would increasing the cost substantially.
I agree with both of these points! It would certainly be more efficient and
cost effective to have them shipped directly to the end destinations.
 
3.        The biggest problem I had was getting the screens made and having
them available for shipping. That took months. Months!!! The shipper I used
had them in my hands about two weeks after they were available. Once they
arrive, clearing customs is a snap and pickup straightforward as long the
truck is large enough.
Do you think if we get together a large enough order, they will expedite the
manufacturing process? I can understand it taking a while on a one-off
order, but maybe it will get more attention if there are several involved.
Oh... and did it come directly to you, or did you have to pick it up at some
importation point (since you made the "clearing customs" statement?
 
Colin Feyerabend is the appropriate person to contact regarding the ordering
of the screens but it wouldn't hurt if someone else was available in the UK
to expedite matters. And for those with plastic rear screens mulling it
over, the glass ones are significantly, significantly, better and it would
be well worth the cost of joining this venture, particularly as the cost
would probably be somewhat less than if one was acquired later by itself.
I agree here too. It would be most helpful if we had someone in the UK to
"supervise" matters.
 
Anyone else want to add to this?
 
Jeff
#8052
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: June 17, 2002 9:29 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
Hi All,
I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that we might
need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me, if I step
on anyone's toes!)
 
OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
 
First:
Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked "Marcos
Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
 
Second:
If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man with Colin
(and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate efforts on
this side.
 
Third:
We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge of the
contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
 
Forth:
We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is going to
cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're up for.
(This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if applicable?), and
shipping to the US)
Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have them shipped
to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them shipped to
each location from the UK.
 
Am I forgetting anything????
 
Jeff
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Hi all,
     Having started the thread along with Paul Dransfields' very 
useful info, I feel I should have let everybody know what I had found
out.........nothing.......I could not get a hold of Colin ......
calling 3 times in all........however... Jeff ,I think getting a UK 
contact would be a good idea.......and count me in for both front and
rear glass.
        Cheers Dave #5577







--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>  
> A large component of the delay in acquiring the two screens for Ron 
and me
> was due to the reluctance of the manufacturer to produce only a 
couple of
> screens. Undoubtedly, if an order came in for 5 front screens and 5 
rear
> screens or more, the order would receive greater attention. 
>  
> It was a personal choice, to limit the total cost, to clear customs 
myself
> and take delivery of the crate (in our case from a bonded warehouse 
located
> at the Toronto airport even though it came by sea) with the aid of a 
truck
> owned by a friend of Ron. For a price, I'm sure we could have 
arranged to
> have the crate delivered to our doorstep. However, the clearing and
> transportation cost from the warehouse would have been 
disproportionately
> higher than the shipping cost. That's probably on of the reasons why 
Mike
> Denman had such a high total cost, which by my calculator was around 
3 times
> the price paid by Ron and I.
>  
> Regards,
>                 Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: June 17, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
> 
> 
>  
> 1.        The size of the crate required to transport two screens 
was quite
> large, around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide. 
> Great information! Thanks Paul!
>  
> 2.    It would make sense to order all the screens at the same time, 
but
> have them crated and shipped in groups depending on final 
destination. The
> shipping cost is based on volume and weight so it wouldn't cost much 
more to
> separate them that way, bearing in mind that my crate was bearly 
manageable
> by two people.
>  
> 2.        By shipping them to their final destinations directly, 
Canadian
> purchasers, for instance, would not have to incur two customs costs 
etc. and
> the coordinator wouldn't have to be concerned about forwarding the 
screens
> on, which would increasing the cost substantially.
> I agree with both of these points! It would certainly be more 
efficient and
> cost effective to have them shipped directly to the end 
destinations.
>  
> 3.        The biggest problem I had was getting the screens made and 
having
> them available for shipping. That took months. Months!!! The shipper 
I used
> had them in my hands about two weeks after they were available. Once 
they
> arrive, clearing customs is a snap and pickup straightforward as 
long the
> truck is large enough.
> Do you think if we get together a large enough order, they will 
expedite the
> manufacturing process? I can understand it taking a while on a 
one-off
> order, but maybe it will get more attention if there are several 
involved.
> Oh... and did it come directly to you, or did you have to pick it up 
at some
> importation point (since you made the "clearing customs" statement?
>  
> Colin Feyerabend is the appropriate person to contact regarding the 
ordering
> of the screens but it wouldn't hurt if someone else was available in 
the UK
> to expedite matters. And for those with plastic rear screens mulling 
it
> over, the glass ones are significantly, significantly, better and it 
would
> be well worth the cost of joining this venture, particularly as the 
cost
> would probably be somewhat less than if one was acquired later by 
itself.
> I agree here too. It would be most helpful if we had someone in the 
UK to
> "supervise" matters.
>  
> Anyone else want to add to this?
>  
> Jeff
> #8052
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: June 17, 2002 9:29 AM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
> Hi All,
> I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that we 
might
> need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me, if 
I step
> on anyone's toes!)
>  
> OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
>  
> First:
> Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
> Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked 
"Marcos
> Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
>  
> Second:
> If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
> As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man with 
Colin
> (and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate 
efforts on
> this side.
>  
> Third:
> We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge of 
the
> contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
>  
> Forth:
> We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is 
going to
> cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're up 
for.
> (This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if applicable?), 
and
> shipping to the US)
> Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have them 
shipped
> to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them 
shipped to

> each location from the UK.
>  
> Am I forgetting anything????
>  
> Jeff
> #8052
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Dave,

Maybe you could try Colin at home. His number is:- 01144 171 277 5752. You
didn't say whether there was no reply or he wasn't there. There should at
least be a receptionist at his office. There may be someone else in the
Marcos Owners Club who has the contact information for Pilkington Glass but
I wouldn't know who it might be. I'll take a look through the latest Torque
magazine to see if there's anyone mentioned.

Regards,
        Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: June 17, 2002 4:12 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Marcos Glass!!!


 Hi all,
     Having started the thread along with Paul Dransfields' very 
useful info, I feel I should have let everybody know what I had found
out.........nothing.......I could not get a hold of Colin ......
calling 3 times in all........however... Jeff ,I think getting a UK 
contact would be a good idea.......and count me in for both front and
rear glass.
        Cheers Dave #5577







--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>  
> A large component of the delay in acquiring the two screens for Ron 
and me
> was due to the reluctance of the manufacturer to produce only a 
couple of
> screens. Undoubtedly, if an order came in for 5 front screens and 5 
rear
> screens or more, the order would receive greater attention. 
>  
> It was a personal choice, to limit the total cost, to clear customs 
myself
> and take delivery of the crate (in our case from a bonded warehouse 
located
> at the Toronto airport even though it came by sea) with the aid of a 
truck
> owned by a friend of Ron. For a price, I'm sure we could have 
arranged to
> have the crate delivered to our doorstep. However, the clearing and
> transportation cost from the warehouse would have been 
disproportionately
> higher than the shipping cost. That's probably on of the reasons why 
Mike
> Denman had such a high total cost, which by my calculator was around 
3 times
> the price paid by Ron and I.
>  
> Regards,
>                 Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: June 17, 2002 1:03 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
> 
> 
>  
> 1.        The size of the crate required to transport two screens 
was quite
> large, around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide. 
> Great information! Thanks Paul!
>  
> 2.    It would make sense to order all the screens at the same time, 
but
> have them crated and shipped in groups depending on final 
destination. The
> shipping cost is based on volume and weight so it wouldn't cost much 
more to
> separate them that way, bearing in mind that my crate was bearly 
manageable
> by two people.
>  
> 2.        By shipping them to their final destinations directly, 
Canadian
> purchasers, for instance, would not have to incur two customs costs 
etc. and
> the coordinator wouldn't have to be concerned about forwarding the 
screens
> on, which would increasing the cost substantially.
> I agree with both of these points! It would certainly be more 
efficient and
> cost effective to have them shipped directly to the end 
destinations.
>  
> 3.        The biggest problem I had was getting the screens made and 
having
> them available for shipping. That took months. Months!!! The shipper 
I used
> had them in my hands about two weeks after they were available. Once 
they
> arrive, clearing customs is a snap and pickup straightforward as 
long the
> truck is large enough.
> Do you think if we get together a large enough order, they will 
expedite the
> manufacturing process? I can understand it taking a while on a 
one-off
> order, but maybe it will get more attention if there are several 
involved.
> Oh... and did it come directly to you, or did you have to pick it up 
at some
> importation point (since you made the "clearing customs" statement?
>  
> Colin Feyerabend is the appropriate person to contact regarding the 
ordering
> of the screens but it wouldn't hurt if someone else was available in 
the UK
> to expedite matters. And for those with plastic rear screens mulling 
it
> over, the glass ones are significantly, significantly, better and it 
would
> be well worth the cost of joining this venture, particularly as the 
cost
> would probably be somewhat less than if one was acquired later by 
itself.
> I agree here too. It would be most helpful if we had someone in the 
UK to
> "supervise" matters.
>  
> Anyone else want to add to this?
>  
> Jeff
> #8052
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> Sent: June 17, 2002 9:29 AM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
> Hi All,
> I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that we 
might
> need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me, if 
I step
> on anyone's toes!)
>  
> OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
>  
> First:
> Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
> Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked 
"Marcos
> Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
>  
> Second:
> If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
> As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man with 
Colin
> (and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate 
efforts on
> this side.
>  
> Third:
> We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge of 
the
> contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
>  
> Forth:
> We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is 
going to
> cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're up 
for.
> (This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if applicable?), 
and
> shipping to the US)
> Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have them 
shipped
> to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them 
shipped to
> each location from the UK.
>  
> Am I forgetting anything????
>  
> Jeff
> #8052
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Colin's no longer deeply involved with the Marcos Owners Club (as he 
has been for years). 

The current contact is Kate & Paul Crocker, 139 Maidstone Road, 
Borough Green, Kent, TN15 8HE Tel : (01732 780756)

I'm not sure that they will have these details to hand, but if it's a 
club related thing, they should be able to get hold of them.

I've sent them an e-mail to find out if they can help.

Cheers,

Mark

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> Maybe you could try Colin at home. His number is:- 01144 171 277 
5752. You
> didn't say whether there was no reply or he wasn't there. There 
should at
> least be a receptionist at his office. There may be someone else in 
the
> Marcos Owners Club who has the contact information for Pilkington 
Glass but
> I wouldn't know who it might be. I'll take a look through the 
latest Torque
> magazine to see if there's anyone mentioned.
> 
> Regards,
>         Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: June 17, 2002 4:12 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Marcos Glass!!!
> 
> 
>  Hi all,
>      Having started the thread along with Paul Dransfields' very 
> useful info, I feel I should have let everybody know what I had 
found
> out.........nothing.......I could not get a hold of Colin ......
> calling 3 times in all........however... Jeff ,I think getting a UK 
> contact would be a good idea.......and count me in for both front 
and
> rear glass.
>         Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> > Hi Jeff,
> >  
> > A large component of the delay in acquiring the two screens for 
Ron 
> and me
> > was due to the reluctance of the manufacturer to produce only a 
> couple of
> > screens. Undoubtedly, if an order came in for 5 front screens and 
5 
> rear
> > screens or more, the order would receive greater attention. 
> >  
> > It was a personal choice, to limit the total cost, to clear 
customs 
> myself
> > and take delivery of the crate (in our case from a bonded 
warehouse 
> located
> > at the Toronto airport even though it came by sea) with the aid 
of a 
> truck
> > owned by a friend of Ron. For a price, I'm sure we could have 
> arranged to
> > have the crate delivered to our doorstep. However, the clearing 
and
> > transportation cost from the warehouse would have been 
> disproportionately
> > higher than the shipping cost. That's probably on of the reasons 
why 
> Mike
> > Denman had such a high total cost, which by my calculator was 
around 
> 3 times
> > the price paid by Ron and I.
> >  
> > Regards,
> >                 Paul
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: June 17, 2002 1:03 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 1.        The size of the crate required to transport two screens 
> was quite
> > large, around 4 feet long, 3 feet high and 2 feet wide. 
> > Great information! Thanks Paul!
> >  
> > 2.    It would make sense to order all the screens at the same 
time, 
> but
> > have them crated and shipped in groups depending on final 
> destination. The
> > shipping cost is based on volume and weight so it wouldn't cost 
much 
> more to
> > separate them that way, bearing in mind that my crate was bearly 
> manageable
> > by two people.
> >  
> > 2.        By shipping them to their final destinations directly, 
> Canadian
> > purchasers, for instance, would not have to incur two customs 
costs 
> etc. and
> > the coordinator wouldn't have to be concerned about forwarding 
the 
> screens
> > on, which would increasing the cost substantially.
> > I agree with both of these points! It would certainly be more 
> efficient and
> > cost effective to have them shipped directly to the end 
> destinations.
> >  
> > 3.        The biggest problem I had was getting the screens made 
and 
> having
> > them available for shipping. That took months. Months!!! The 
shipper 
> I used
> > had them in my hands about two weeks after they were available. 
Once 
> they
> > arrive, clearing customs is a snap and pickup straightforward as 
> long the
> > truck is large enough.
> > Do you think if we get together a large enough order, they will 
> expedite the
> > manufacturing process? I can understand it taking a while on a 
> one-off
> > order, but maybe it will get more attention if there are several 
> involved.
> > Oh... and did it come directly to you, or did you have to pick it 
up 
> at some
> > importation point (since you made the "clearing customs" 
statement?
> >  
> > Colin Feyerabend is the appropriate person to contact regarding 
the 
> ordering
> > of the screens but it wouldn't hurt if someone else was available 
in 
> the UK
> > to expedite matters. And for those with plastic rear screens 
mulling 
> it
> > over, the glass ones are significantly, significantly, better and 
it 
> would
> > be well worth the cost of joining this venture, particularly as 
the 
> cost
> > would probably be somewhat less than if one was acquired later by 
> itself.
> > I agree here too. It would be most helpful if we had someone in 
the 
> UK to
> > "supervise" matters.
> >  
> > Anyone else want to add to this?
> >  
> > Jeff
> > #8052
> >  
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@c...]
> > Sent: June 17, 2002 9:29 AM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Marcos Glass!!!
> > Hi All,
> > I have watched the glass threads "unravel" here and thought that 
we 
> might
> > need some organization here to get this going. (Please excuse me, 
if 
> I step
> > on anyone's toes!)
> >  
> > OK, to get this glass thing sorted out....
> >  
> > First:
> > Do we want to place a group order for front and back Marcos glass?
> > Everyone that is interested, please reply to this thread marked 
> "Marcos
> > Glass". (We have replies in so many threads, I lost track!)
> >  
> > Second:
> > If so, who wants to handle the interface with Colin?
> > As I see it, we may need someone in the UK to be the point man 
with 
> Colin
> > (and keep the pressure on), and someone over here to coordinate 
> efforts on
> > this side.
> >  
> > Third:
> > We need to find out if they are attainable. (The person in charge 
of 
> the
> > contact with Colin should be able to find this answer)
> >  
> > Forth:
> > We really need to get an estimate in US dollars of how much it is 
> going to
> > cost to get the things over here, so everyone knows what they're 
up 
> for.
> > (This includes a manufacturing estimate, customs (if 
applicable?), 
> and
> > shipping to the US)
> > Part of this would be the need to figure out if we want to have 
them 
> shipped
> > to one location in the US, and sort them out here. Or have them 
> shipped to
> > each location from the UK.
> >  
> > Am I forgetting anything????
> >  
> > Jeff
> > #8052
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
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Hi all,

A word of warning wrt the rear glass/plexi.  The glass window will not fit 
all models.  Rory MacMath may be able to give you some input on which 
specific ones it will fit.  Hayes at WireWheel had some rear windows made up 
in Lexan (I believe) from an original.  Each Marcos fits a bit different (I 
have had the joy of fitting 3 in a volunteer capacity) and they each were a 
bit of a challenge.  I would strongly recommend either a. making sure a glass 
rear fits your particular model (I've only seen them on Volvo 3.0 models), or 
b. get a plexi/lexan type that is somewhat pliable and can be massaged to 
fit.  Just my two cents.  Good luck.

Regards,
Tad

Hi all,

I have been following the marcos glass e-mails and would also be
interested in a glass rear screen for my 1967 1600. I also do not know
if any of the early cars ever had glass screens fitted as a vent was
originally cut into the top to aid ventilation. If people with the older
cars fitted with glass rears could post messages to the maniacs site
giving vehicle model and date information it may help us all to
understand which of us could benefit from this upgrade. 
Pilkingtons web site gives the address below for automotive glass
replacement. They also operate out of america and canada so the
opportunity may be there if the screens are made up for them to
transport the screens directly to these countries with one of their
ordinary glass shipments as I am sure they must also support replacement
glass for many other classic British and European cars that are far more
prolific than the marcos.
I am willing to give them a call to find out more if that is ok with
everyone, but I think we should be sure of which cars they fit first,
and also weather they fitted several models with slightly different
designs which would complicate things especially as our best hope of
getting a quicker service and cheaper screens is if we can order as
large a volume as possible. 




Pilkington AGR (UK) Ltd
 7 Old Forge Drive Park Farm North Redditch Worcs.
 B98 7AU United Kingdom.  
 Tel +44 (0)1527 517373 Fax +44 (0)1527 505240 



Lee Brinkley
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Hi Lee et al,

You beat me to posting that address for Pilkington's, their web site 
www.pilkington.com does indeed have other country location's which 
may well work in your favour.

I am not after glass as my car already has a glass rear screen 
(safely stored in my parents loft at the moment!) My car was a 2litre 
Ford V4 chassis number 2M5504 year 1969 - I hope this helps indicate 
when glass was fitted. (all I've got to do now is make sure my glass 
is fitted in one peice! and has any scratches polished out of it!

Regards

Ashley

www.molyneuxs.com

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., Lee Brinkley <lbrinkley@r...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been following the marcos glass e-mails and would also be
> interested in a glass rear screen for my 1967 1600. I also do not 
know
> if any of the early cars ever had glass screens fitted as a vent was
> originally cut into the top to aid ventilation. If people with the 
older
> cars fitted with glass rears could post messages to the maniacs site
> giving vehicle model and date information it may help us all to
> understand which of us could benefit from this upgrade. 
> Pilkingtons web site gives the address below for automotive glass
> replacement. They also operate out of america and canada so the
> opportunity may be there if the screens are made up for them to
> transport the screens directly to these countries with one of their
> ordinary glass shipments as I am sure they must also support 
replacement
> glass for many other classic British and European cars that are far 
more
> prolific than the marcos.
> I am willing to give them a call to find out more if that is ok with
> everyone, but I think we should be sure of which cars they fit 
first,
> and also weather they fitted several models with slightly different
> designs which would complicate things especially as our best hope of
> getting a quicker service and cheaper screens is if we can order as
> large a volume as possible. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pilkington AGR (UK) Ltd
>  7 Old Forge Drive Park Farm North Redditch Worcs.
>  B98 7AU United Kingdom.  
>  Tel +44 (0)1527 517373 Fax +44 (0)1527 505240 
> 
> 
> 
> Lee Brinkley
> lbrinkley@r...
> (044)(0)1277 261400
> Fax: (044)(0)1277 261525
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Hi All,
Well it looks like we have several people interested, but also have
several critical questions now!
Thanks to Mike and Tad for their inputs on some of the unknowns about
this situation. 
I sure would hate to pay a lot of money for glass that wouldn't end up
fitting my car correctly!
 
I have written Marcos Heritage (Rory McMath) to see if they have any
answers as to which models used back glass, and if the front and rear
glass is the same throughout the various models.
 
I will also write Hayes at Wire Wheel if anyone is interested in getting
a Lexan rear instead. (Please LMK!)
I have this Lexan type in mine and it looks pretty close to glass. You
really can't tell without thumping it that it is Lexan. However, since
it is fairly new, I'm not sure if it will discolor with age or not.
 
Lee, once we get these questions cleared up, it would be great if you
could contact Pilkington for us. If they could ship it to (or even
manufacture it in) one of their facilities over here, that would be
fantastic! (The Pilkington guys over here probably won't know what we
are talking about though!)
 
I'll let everyone know when I get a response from Marcos Heritage.
 
Jeff
#8052

Jeff and all,
 
A lot of the problems around fitting the glass rear screen in particular
were due to the use of an incorrect rubber molding. I acquired my glass rear
screen through the Marcos Owners Club but had it fitted at the Marcos
factory when my car was rebuilt in 1981. I'd be asking Rory McMath if the
plexiglass rubber was suitable for the glass rear screen, and if not, to
provide the correct rubber profile. I think you'll find that the size of the
rear screen was supposed to be uniform across all models but differences
occur due to the hand built nature of the cars. I'm pretty sure that the
glass screen will fit all models but some adjustments may be necessary on
some cars. As I said before, fitting the rear screen can be a tricky job and
it should not be forced under any circumstances. Some cars may need more
adjustment than others.  It requires patience and intelligence.
 
Regards,
 
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Caraway [mailto:DovenWolf@...]
Sent: June 18, 2002 9:39 AM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Marcos Glass!!!


Hi All,
Well it looks like we have several people interested, but also have several
critical questions now!
Thanks to Mike and Tad for their inputs on some of the unknowns about this
situation. 
I sure would hate to pay a lot of money for glass that wouldn't end up
fitting my car correctly!
 
I have written Marcos Heritage (Rory McMath) to see if they have any answers
as to which models used back glass, and if the front and rear glass is the
same throughout the various models.
 
I will also write Hayes at Wire Wheel if anyone is interested in getting a
Lexan rear instead. (Please LMK!)
I have this Lexan type in mine and it looks pretty close to glass. You
really can't tell without thumping it that it is Lexan. However, since it is
fairly new, I'm not sure if it will discolor with age or not.
 
Lee, once we get these questions cleared up, it would be great if you could
contact Pilkington for us. If they could ship it to (or even manufacture it
in) one of their facilities over here, that would be fantastic! (The
Pilkington guys over here probably won't know what we are talking about
though!)
 
I'll let everyone know when I get a response from Marcos Heritage.
 
Jeff
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Jeff,

Once I know what questions to ask I will happily try to get some answers
from pilkingtons.
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Lee
Just seen that Pilkington's address that you posted is Redditch, 
which is not a million miles from me here in Kidderminster.
If we can get this together I can (sticking my neck out here) 
possibly co-ordinate a shipment/ big enough order..................
Where to from here, especially regarding the fact that glass won't 
fit all applications.
Paul
#5239


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., Lee Brinkley <lbrinkley@r...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been following the marcos glass e-mails and would also be
> interested in a glass rear screen for my 1967 1600. I also do not 
know
> if any of the early cars ever had glass screens fitted as a vent was
> originally cut into the top to aid ventilation. If people with the 
older
> cars fitted with glass rears could post messages to the maniacs site
> giving vehicle model and date information it may help us all to
> understand which of us could benefit from this upgrade. 
> Pilkingtons web site gives the address below for automotive glass
> replacement. They also operate out of america and canada so the
> opportunity may be there if the screens are made up for them to
> transport the screens directly to these countries with one of their
> ordinary glass shipments as I am sure they must also support 
replacement
> glass for many other classic British and European cars that are far 
more
> prolific than the marcos.
> I am willing to give them a call to find out more if that is ok with
> everyone, but I think we should be sure of which cars they fit 
first,
> and also weather they fitted several models with slightly different
> designs which would complicate things especially as our best hope of
> getting a quicker service and cheaper screens is if we can order as
> large a volume as possible. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Pilkington AGR (UK) Ltd
>  7 Old Forge Drive Park Farm North Redditch Worcs.
>  B98 7AU United Kingdom.  
>  Tel +44 (0)1527 517373 Fax +44 (0)1527 505240 
> 
> 
> 
> Lee Brinkley
> lbrinkley@r...
> (044)(0)1277 261400
> Fax: (044)(0)1277 261525
> 
> This message and any attachments are confidential and intended only 
for
> the 
> named recipient.  Views and opinions contained herein are those of 
the 
> author unless clearly stated as being that of Roush.  If you are 
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> intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and do not 
> disclose, copy or use the contents in any way.
> Roush Technologies Limited.  Registration No. 3854474