Rear Suspension
2005-11-26 by bennywhiz
Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos came with toe-in on the rear axle? Thanks, John..
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Rear Suspension
RE: [MarcosManiacs] Rear Suspension
2005-11-26 by john_sutton
John,
I assume this is a joke!!
John
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Hello
All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos came
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Thanks, John..
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Re: Rear Suspension
2005-11-26 by bennywhiz
--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "john_sutton" <john_sutton@b...> wrote: > > John, > > > > I assume this is a joke!! > > > > John > > > > john_sutton@b... > No John, I wish it was. Setting up my suspension and running a line down each side, the string set to touch the edge of the rear tire and the edge of the front tire, I find that I have toe-in in the rear wheels and it's exactly equal on both sides. I have heard that on some cars, probably race cars,that it can be done by cutting and rewelding, although mine shows no sign of this. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bennywhiz > Sent: 26 November 2005 3:53 AM > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Rear Suspension > > > > Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos came > with toe-in on the rear axle? > Thanks, John.. > > > > > > > _____ > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > § Visit your group "HYPERLINK > "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MarcosManiacs"MarcosManiacs" on the web. > > > § To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > HYPERLINK > "mailto:MarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com? subject=Unsubscribe"Ma
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RE: [MarcosManiacs] Rear Suspension
2005-11-27 by Garry Diver
No, unless you go racing, in which case a small amount of toe can be induced by heating the front side of the Torque tubes, like the Nascar guys do. I don't recommend it for a road car. Garry Diver
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>From: "bennywhiz" <bennywhiz@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Rear Suspension >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:52:59 -0000 > > > > > >Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos came > >with toe-in on the rear axle? > > Thanks,\ufffd John.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > > > \ufffdVisit your group "MarcosManiacs" on the web. >\ufffd > \ufffdTo unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >\ufffdMarcosManiacs-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >\ufffd > \ufffdYour use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: Rear Suspension
2005-11-27 by ukcadsev
Hi John, Not sure if I'm right in this, but if you are taking a piece of string from the front tyres to the back, surely if the track at the front is slightly wider (which I think it is), then you would see this as a sligh toe-in at the rear, purely due to the wheels sticking out further. Toe needs to be checked by measuring the distance between the wheels, left to right - i.e. measure the distance between the front edge of the wheels, and then again at the rear edge, they should be equal... Regards, Nick
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> > No John, I wish it was. Setting up my suspension and running a > line down each side, the string set to touch the edge of the rear > tire and the edge of the front tire, I find that I have toe-in in > the rear wheels and it's exactly equal on both sides. I have heard > that on some cars, probably race cars,that it can be done by cutting > and rewelding, although mine shows no sign of this.
RE: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension
2005-11-30 by john_sutton
John,
It must have been bent in an accident. You cannot have toe-in on a live axle without causing internal damage to the bearings.
John
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John,
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>
> I assume this is a joke!!
>
>
>
> John
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>; john_sutton@b...
> No John, I wish it was. Setting up my suspension and running a
line down each side, the string set to touch the edge of the rear
tire and the edge of the front tire, I find that I have toe-in in
the rear wheels and it's exactly equal on both sides. I have heard
that on some cars, probably race cars,that it can be done by cutting
and rewelding, although mine shows no sign of this.
>
>
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> Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos
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> Thanks, John..
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Re: Rear Suspension
2005-12-02 by bennywhiz
--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "john_sutton"
<john_sutton@b...> wrote:
>
> John,
>
>
>
> It must have been bent in an accident. You cannot have toe-in on
a live
> axle without causing internal damage to the bearings.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> john_sutton@b...
>
> Hi John, The thing is you can have toe-in on a live axle, I had it
on the Ginetta I raced years ago, it is slight but there, that is
the reason I asked you guys as I have never owned a Marcos. It's now
a dead issue as I have tossed said axle and I am looking for a
replacement. Incidently, the other Marcos (1970 steel chassis) has a
much beefier axle, I believe the wooden Marcos is an early Cortina,
what is the other axle from?
Best Regards,
John..
>
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> <john_sutton@b...> wrote:
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> > John,
> >
> >
> >
> > I assume this is a joke!!
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > john_sutton@b...
> > No John, I wish it was. Setting up my suspension and running a
> line down each side, the string set to touch the edge of the rear
> tire and the edge of the front tire, I find that I have toe-in in
> the rear wheels and it's exactly equal on both sides. I have heard
> that on some cars, probably race cars,that it can be done by
cutting
> and rewelding, although mine shows no sign of this.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> >
> >
> >
> > Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos
> came
> > with toe-in on the rear axle?
> > Thanks, John..
> >
> >
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Re: Rear Suspension
2005-12-02 by Don Lattimer
My 1971 steel chassis V6 has a Ford Corsair rear axle which I believe is the same as the Cortina. 3.77:1 ratio. Don #3M5759
Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension
2005-12-02 by Donny Lang
John, If you absolutely cannot find a rear axle for
your Marcos, I will be swapping mine out for a different unit in the very near
future. Mine is from an early steel-chassied car (#5514) and may be what you are
looking for. - Donny Lang
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----- Original Message -----From: bennywhizSent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:31 PMSubject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "john_sutton"
<john_sutton@b...> wrote:
>
> John,
>
>
>
> It must have been bent in an accident. You cannot have toe-in on
a live
> axle without causing internal damage to the bearings.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
> john_sutton@b...
>
> Hi John, The thing is you can have toe-in on a live axle, I had it
on the Ginetta I raced years ago, it is slight but there, that is
the reason I asked you guys as I have never owned a Marcos. It's now
a dead issue as I have tossed said axle and I am looking for a
replacement. Incidently, the other Marcos (1970 steel chassis) has a
much beefier axle, I believe the wooden Marcos is an early Cortina,
what is the other axle from?
Best Regards,
; John..
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bennywhiz
> Sent: 26 November 2005 23:49 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension
>
>
>
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "john_sutton"
> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> >
> >
> > I assume this is a joke!!
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > john_sutton@b...
> > No John, I wish it was. Setting up my suspension and running a
> line down each side, the string set to touch the edge of the rear
> tire and the edge of the front tire, I find that I have toe-in in
> the rear wheels and it's exactly equal on both sides. I have heard
> that on some cars, probably race cars,that it can be done by
cutting
> and rewelding, although mine shows no sign of this.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bennywhiz
> > Sent: 26 November 2005 3:53 AM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Rear Suspension
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos
> came
> > with toe-in on the rear axle?
> > Thanks, John..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension
2005-12-04 by Garry Diver
The later cars, mainly the 3 liter were delivered with a Salisbury 7HA axle. The same as the Morgan for the same period and also some of the early Jags and Aston Martins. Unfortunately these are unobtainable now and parts are difficult to source. I eventually tracked down a set of bearings and shims to rebuild mine but will probably change it for a BTR axle from Australia. This is the Dana version and has the advantage of readily available parts. It will have to be modified to receive the Marcos rear trailing arms but I plan to set up a jig for that purpose. If anyone is interested I plan to import a couple in the new year. Garry Diver
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>From: "Donny Lang" <indigo@...> >Reply-To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com >To: <MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension >Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:53:31 -0500 > >John, If you absolutely cannot find a rear axle for your Marcos, I will be >swapping mine out for a different unit in the very near future. Mine is >from an early steel-chassied car (#5514) and may be what you are looking >for. - Donny Lang > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bennywhiz > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:31 PM > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "john_sutton" > <john_sutton@b...> wrote: > > > > John, > > > > > > > > It must have been bent in an accident. You cannot have toe-in on > a live > > axle without causing internal damage to the bearings. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > john_sutton@b... > > > > Hi John, The thing is you can have toe-in on a live axle, I had it > on the Ginetta I raced years ago, it is slight but there, that is > the reason I asked you guys as I have never owned a Marcos. It's now > a dead issue as I have tossed said axle and I am looking for a > replacement. Incidently, the other Marcos (1970 steel chassis) has a > much beefier axle, I believe the wooden Marcos is an early Cortina, > what is the other axle from? > Best Regards, > John.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bennywhiz > > Sent: 26 November 2005 23:49 PM > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Rear Suspension > > > > > > > > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "john_sutton" > > <john_sutton@b...> wrote: > > > > > > John, > > > > > > > > > > > > I assume this is a joke!! > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > john_sutton@b... > > > No John, I wish it was. Setting up my suspension and running a > > line down each side, the string set to touch the edge of the rear > > tire and the edge of the front tire, I find that I have toe-in in > > the rear wheels and it's exactly equal on both sides. I have heard > > that on some cars, probably race cars,that it can be done by > cutting > > and rewelding, although mine shows no sign of this. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bennywhiz > > > Sent: 26 November 2005 3:53 AM > > > To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Rear Suspension > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello All, Could someone please tell me if the live axle Marcos > > came > > > with toe-in on the rear axle? > > > Thanks, John.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > YAHOO! 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