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"Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

"Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

2006-09-21 by marcos1600

I have a chance to get a set of replica "Mini-Lite" knock-off wheels at a decent price.

The question is if they will have a usable back-space and width?
I do not want them to rub, and absolutely will not flare the wheel arches.

My car came with Mini-Lite 13" true mag wheels.
High performance tire selection seems limited for 13", and going to spline hubs cures an 
issue with differing bolt patterns with the Alfa-Romeo axle I plan to fit.

Not sure what the Max. diameter is for tires to fit, with that I can see about 14" Dia. tire 
possibilities.

Any informed advice much appreciated!

RE: [MarcosManiacs] "Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

2006-09-22 by Dransfield, Paul

It really depends on the backspace of the 13" wheels compared to the 14"
wheels. This is the distance from the mounting surface of the wheel to the
inner rim and can vary even with similar wheels. If you want wheels to be
positioned where they are now, the distance from the mounting surface to the
outer rim should remain unchanged. It is unlikely you would have a problem
with clearance.  The heater hose is the most intrusive object into the wheel
well but it could be adjusted if necessary. I have 17" rims on my car with
no clearance issues at the front.

 

Regards,

 

Paul Dransfield

3 litre Volvo

 

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I have a chance to get a set of replica "Mini-Lite" knock-off wheels at a
decent price.

The question is if they will have a usable back-space and width?
I do not want them to rub, and absolutely will not flare the wheel arches.

My car came with Mini-Lite 13" true mag wheels.
High performance tire selection seems limited for 13", and going to spline
hubs cures an 
issue with differing bolt patterns with the Alfa-Romeo axle I plan to fit.

Not sure what the Max. diameter is for tires to fit, with that I can see
about 14" Dia. tire 
possibilities.

Any informed advice much appreciated!

 




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Re: [MarcosManiacs] "Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

2006-09-22 by Donny Lang

Marcos 1600,
There are a few things that you need to consider with wheel changes. The two most important are tire diameter and backspace. Paul D. wrote in with similar comments.
I'm using a tire with about a 22 1/4" diameter (205/60-13) on stock 13" Marcos alloys which is about as wide as you can fit on a 5 1/2" wide rim. I also have a Bugeye project where I am using 14 X 5 1/2" wire wheels off a Triumph Stag. On this, I'm using a 185/60 -14 which also has a 22 1/4" diameter. These are both what I consider "old school" performance tires from my autocross days (with a Scirocco) in the late '70s -early '80s, which are getting harder to find today. 16" and 17" performance today are everywhere in the same diameters as the 13" an 14" from yesterday (My Mini Cooper has 215/40-17 tires that are 22 3/4" diameter!).
Backspace is just as important as diameter. My Marcos alloys have 2 7/8". I measured several other wheels just for reference. Keep in mind, knock-off (centerlock) wheels need to include the splined adapter if it is a bolt-on type. I used a splined adapter installed for the two wires I measured.
2 7/8" - stock 5 1/2 X 13 Marcos alloys
4 3/8" - stock 5 1/2 X 13 Triumph TR7/8 (same 3 3/4" bolt circle as Marcos)
3 7/8" - American Racing 7 X 13 Libre
3 1/2" - Triumph Stag 5 1/2 X 14 Dunlop wire wheel
2 1/2" - generic Dunlop 4 1/2 X 15 wire wheel (Healey 100-6, TR 3, etc)
This list shows the wide variation in backspace. Check the backspace ;for the wheels you are looking at (as well as your current wheels) to see if they will work with your axle combination.
I was fitting a TR8 axle (same lug pattern as Marcos) under my Marcos using the TR8 wheels for mock-up. It all fit in the stock wheel wells, only slightly wider than the original Cortina axle. Then I put on the Marcos wheels and they stick way out beyond the fenders! The rim change effectively widen the track by 3". Now, I am going to shorten a Rover SD1 axle housing 3 1/2" narrower that the TR8 axle and still use the 3:08 gear so I can retain my original Marcos alloys.
The final recommendation - Research and do your homework! I hope this helps.
Donny - # 5514
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Subject: [MarcosManiacs] "Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

I have a chance to get a set of replica "Mini-Lite" knock-off wheels at a decent price.

The question is if they will have a usable back-space and width?
I do not want them to rub, and absolutely will not flare the wheel arches.

My car came with Mini-Lite 13" true mag wheels.
High performance tire selection seems limited for 13", and going to spline hubs cures an
issue with differing bolt patterns with the Alfa-Romeo axle I plan to fit.

Not sure what the Max. diameter is for tires to fit, with that I can see about 14" Dia. tire
possibilities.

Any informed advice much appreciated!

Re: "Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

2006-09-22 by Don Lattimer

All kinds of variables here as Paul and Donny have mentioned.  I run 
16" wheels on my steel frame car.  Took a lot of measurements 
beforehand and then had wheels made to my backspace requirements.

Mike Denman has "mini-lites" on his wood-framed car.  Maybe hecan 
help with backspace numbers, etc.

Stephen has 14" wires on his Steel-framed car.  His were specially 
done I believe.

Be careful!

Don
#3M5759


--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "marcos1600" <SIA@...> wrote:
>
> I have a chance to get a set of replica "Mini-Lite" knock-off 
wheels at a decent price.
> 
> The question is if they will have a usable back-space and width?
> I do not want them to rub, and absolutely will not flare the wheel 
arches.
> 
> My car came with Mini-Lite 13" true mag wheels.
> High performance tire selection seems limited for 13", and going 
to spline hubs cures an 
> issue with differing bolt patterns with the Alfa-Romeo axle I plan 
to fit.
> 
> Not sure what the Max. diameter is for tires to fit, with that I 
can see about 14" Dia. tire 
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> possibilities.
> 
> Any informed advice much appreciated!
>

Re: [MarcosManiacs] Re: "Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

2006-09-23 by Bob Magnotti

Don,

I am running the Marcos 13" alloy wheels and found a
set of WinStar Phaser R21 P185x60HR13 tires.  No
probles with clearance for the tires but ground
clearance is tight on the exhaust system. The car
handles great.

This summer Michael Crews and I made history by
showing two Marcos cars at the Roanoke,Virginia Star
City Motor Madness event here in the Blue Ridge
Mountains of SW Virginia.  The probably the largest
gathering of Marcos cars ever in The Blue Ridge.

Bob Magnotti
#5179 1600GT

--- Don Lattimer <donlattimer@...> wrote:

> All kinds of variables here as Paul and Donny have
> mentioned.  I run 
> 16" wheels on my steel frame car.  Took a lot of
> measurements 
> beforehand and then had wheels made to my backspace
> requirements.
> 
> Mike Denman has "mini-lites" on his wood-framed car.
>  Maybe hecan 
> help with backspace numbers, etc.
> 
> Stephen has 14" wires on his Steel-framed car.  His
> were specially 
> done I believe.
> 
> Be careful!
> 
> Don
> #3M5759
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "marcos1600"
> <SIA@...> wrote:
> >
> > I have a chance to get a set of replica
> "Mini-Lite" knock-off 
> wheels at a decent price.
> > 
> > The question is if they will have a usable
> back-space and width?
> > I do not want them to rub, and absolutely will not
> flare the wheel 
> arches.
> > 
> > My car came with Mini-Lite 13" true mag wheels.
> > High performance tire selection seems limited for
> 13", and going 
> to spline hubs cures an 
> > issue with differing bolt patterns with the
> Alfa-Romeo axle I plan 
> to fit.
> > 
> > Not sure what the Max. diameter is for tires to
> fit, with that I 
> can see about 14" Dia. tire 
> > possibilities.
> > 
> > Any informed advice much appreciated!
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: "Mini-Lite" 14" wheels on Marcos 1600GT?

2006-09-23 by Don Lattimer

When I got my car it had 205/60R13 in the rear (Pirelli at that!) 
and 195/60R13.  I just checked Tirerack and they have Sumitomo 
205/60HR13 tires for $43/each.  UNreal!!  Scoop 'em up while you can 
folks.  Other sizes too.

Any pix from the show you can share with us??

Dopn
#3M5759


--- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, Bob Magnotti 
<rhdspritemk1@...> wrote:
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>
> Don,
> 
> I am running the Marcos 13" alloy wheels and found a
> set of WinStar Phaser R21 P185x60HR13 tires.  No
> probles with clearance for the tires but ground
> clearance is tight on the exhaust system. The car
> handles great.
> 
> This summer Michael Crews and I made history by
> showing two Marcos cars at the Roanoke,Virginia Star
> City Motor Madness event here in the Blue Ridge
> Mountains of SW Virginia.  The probably the largest
> gathering of Marcos cars ever in The Blue Ridge.
> 
> Bob Magnotti
> #5179 1600GT
> 
> --- Don Lattimer <donlattimer@...> wrote:
> 
> > All kinds of variables here as Paul and Donny have
> > mentioned.  I run 
> > 16" wheels on my steel frame car.  Took a lot of
> > measurements 
> > beforehand and then had wheels made to my backspace
> > requirements.
> > 
> > Mike Denman has "mini-lites" on his wood-framed car.
> >  Maybe hecan 
> > help with backspace numbers, etc.
> > 
> > Stephen has 14" wires on his Steel-framed car.  His
> > were specially 
> > done I believe.
> > 
> > Be careful!
> > 
> > Don
> > #3M5759
> > 
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com, "marcos1600"
> > <SIA@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a chance to get a set of replica
> > "Mini-Lite" knock-off 
> > wheels at a decent price.
> > > 
> > > The question is if they will have a usable
> > back-space and width?
> > > I do not want them to rub, and absolutely will not
> > flare the wheel 
> > arches.
> > > 
> > > My car came with Mini-Lite 13" true mag wheels.
> > > High performance tire selection seems limited for
> > 13", and going 
> > to spline hubs cures an 
> > > issue with differing bolt patterns with the
> > Alfa-Romeo axle I plan 
> > to fit.
> > > 
> > > Not sure what the Max. diameter is for tires to
> > fit, with that I 
> > can see about 14" Dia. tire 
> > > possibilities.
> > > 
> > > Any informed advice much appreciated!
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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