Marcos Maniacs

Hi all,

I'm still trying to get one of the rectangular headlamps from the 
previous owner of my car.  Thought I had both, but not so.  

Odd thing about the headlamps:  I have two with "European" molded 
into the glass and one without(I suspect the one I'm trying to get 
from the PO is "without" also).  One of the European style has a hole 
for a "parking lamp"(in the US)and the "without" one also has a hole 
for a parking lamp.  The parking light bulbs, etc. are wired into the 
car and were just hanging there.  So.......I now have one "european" 
headlamp and one of the others on the car(so I have parking lamps).

And.....I can't figure out which is left or right.  The glass is 
molded differently with a curved area on one side.  Does that go to 
the inside of the car or the outside??

When, and if I receive the other lamp I will let you guys know and we 
can go from there!

Don Lattimer
#3M5759
Willts, CA

Ron,

Or you could have them like I did and they will point in opposite 
directions.  Took a while to see your point but after looking at the 
two different styles the "European" style has the curved flutes (?) 
on the right side when looking directly at it and the British style 
is the opposite.

I guess it isn't dependent on LHD or RHD.  It depends on which side 
of the road you drive on.  Correct?  So I want "European" style here 
in the states (dipping to the right)?  I have two of the "European" 
style but only one has the parking light hole.  Get the drill!

Thanks for the help!  Check and application are in the mail!!

Don Lattimer
#3M5759 V6
Willits, CA



--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., Ronald McLeod <ronald.mcleod@a...> wrote:
> Maniacs . . .
>  
> Rectangular headlamps were fitted to the Mantis.  The European 
version is
> for LHD vehicles, with the low beams dipping to the right (curb) 
side.  The
> British version is for RHD vehicles, dipping to the left (the 
oncoming lane,
> for us).  The parking light bulbs were not used - they just plugged 
the hole
> in the reflector.  If you have one of each, mount the European one 
on the
> left and the English one on the right, then they will both dip to 
the centre
> of the lane you are in!
>  
> You can get new rectangular units from an outfit in England.  I 
don't have
> the details with me, but if someone could look in a past issue of 
Torque,
> the details are in a letter that I wrote a few years ago.
>  
> Join the MOC now, so that you too can get Torque magazine and have 
this sort
> of info at your fingertips.
>  
> Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
> 1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858 
> 
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcaqmd [mailto:donlattimer@p...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:00 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Headlamps/Donny/Victor
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm still trying to get one of the rectangular headlamps from the 
> previous owner of my car.  Thought I had both, but not so.  
> 
> Odd thing about the headlamps:  I have two with "European" molded 
> into the glass and one without(I suspect the one I'm trying to get 
> from the PO is "without" also).  One of the European style has a 
hole 
> for a "parking lamp"(in the US)and the "without" one also has a 
hole 
> for a parking lamp.  The parking light bulbs, etc. are wired into 
the 
> car and were just hanging there.  So.......I now have 
one "european" 
> headlamp and one of the others on the car(so I have parking lamps).
> 
> And.....I can't figure out which is left or right.  The glass is 
> molded differently with a curved area on one side.  Does that go to 
> the inside of the car or the outside??
> 
> When, and if I receive the other lamp I will let you guys know and 
we 
> can go from there!
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759
> Willts, CA
> 
> 
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Regards . . . Ron McLeod

Hi there Don/Ron!

I just want to clarify something (I am not refering specifically to 
Marcos here). Any headlight designed to point to the left can and 
should only be used on a right hand drive car or cars driving on the 
left hand side of the road, and converseley headlamps which point 
right are for left hand drive cars or cars driven on the right lane. 
Placing one of each lamps into a car will result in one beam blinding 
oncoming traffic. To give you an example, have you ever driven past a 
parked car facing into the oncoming traffic with their dipped lights 
on? blinding! The solution to all this, is to do what us Europeans 
have to do when we are country hopping. This is predominently moving 
between the UK and other European countries as we drive on the left 
and they drive on the right. We have to cover up a proportion of the 
light (the portion that shines across the road), or use light beam 
deflectors to switch the beam. The lights themselves are marked up 
with the area that would need to be covered or have deflectors 
fitted. I hope this is of help. I will try and find a web link which 
explains what I am trying to say more clearly in the mean time!

Ash
#2M5504 (Square lights)

--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., Ronald McLeod <ronald.mcleod@a...> wrote:
> Don . . .
>  
> Yes, you're right - it depends on which side of the road you drive 
on.  And,
> yes, the European style works for us here in North America.
>  
> And I remember about the parking lights now:  In England, many cars 
had
> "parking lights" which just lit on the driver's side of the car - 
i.e. the
> side sticking out into traffic.  However, I know that on the 
Mantis, these
> parking light bulbs inside the rectangular units were never 
connected to
> anything.
>  
> 
> Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcaqmd [mailto:donlattimer@p...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 3:32 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Headlamps/Donny/Victor
> 
> 
> Ron,
> 
> Or you could have them like I did and they will point in opposite 
> directions.  Took a while to see your point but after looking at 
the 
> two different styles the "European" style has the curved flutes (?) 
> on the right side when looking directly at it and the British style 
> is the opposite.
> 
> I guess it isn't dependent on LHD or RHD.  It depends on which side 
> of the road you drive on.  Correct?  So I want "European" style 
here 
> in the states (dipping to the right)?  I have two of the "European" 
> style but only one has the parking light hole.  Get the drill!
> 
> Thanks for the help!  Check and application are in the mail!!
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759 V6
> Willits, CA
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., Ronald McLeod <ronald.mcleod@a...> wrote:
> > Maniacs . . .
> >  
> > Rectangular headlamps were fitted to the Mantis.  The European 
> version is
> > for LHD vehicles, with the low beams dipping to the right (curb) 
> side.  The
> > British version is for RHD vehicles, dipping to the left (the 
> oncoming lane,
> > for us).  The parking light bulbs were not used - they just 
plugged 
> the hole
> > in the reflector.  If you have one of each, mount the European 
one 
> on the
> > left and the English one on the right, then they will both dip to 
> the centre
> > of the lane you are in!
> >  
> > You can get new rectangular units from an outfit in England.  I 
> don't have
> > the details with me, but if someone could look in a past issue of 
> Torque,
> > the details are in a letter that I wrote a few years ago.
> >  
> > Join the MOC now, so that you too can get Torque magazine and 
have 
> this sort
> > of info at your fingertips.
> >  
> > Regards . . . Ron McLeod 
> > 1970 Marcos Mantis P8/5858 
> > 
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mcaqmd [mailto:donlattimer@p...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 11:00 PM
> > To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> > Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Headlamps/Donny/Victor
> > 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'm still trying to get one of the rectangular headlamps from the 
> > previous owner of my car.  Thought I had both, but not so.  
> > 
> > Odd thing about the headlamps:  I have two with "European" molded 
> > into the glass and one without(I suspect the one I'm trying to 
get 
> > from the PO is "without" also).  One of the European style has a 
> hole 
> > for a "parking lamp"(in the US)and the "without" one also has a 
> hole 
> > for a parking lamp.  The parking light bulbs, etc. are wired into 
> the 
> > car and were just hanging there.  So.......I now have 
> one "european" 
> > headlamp and one of the others on the car(so I have parking 
lamps).
> > 
> > And.....I can't figure out which is left or right.  The glass is 
> > molded differently with a curved area on one side.  Does that go 
to 
> > the inside of the car or the outside??
> > 
> > When, and if I receive the other lamp I will let you guys know 
and 
> we 
> > can go from there!
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3M5759
> > Willts, CA
> > 
> > 
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