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Hi Group,
       Who knows what the source was for the power window regulators??
                   Dave #5577

Hey Dave,

What do you mean by 'power window regulator'?

Regards,

Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:21 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Power Windows


Hi Group,
       Who knows what the source was for the power window regulators??
                   Dave #5577



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Thanks Donny
      I have sandblasted all the crud off the "scissor" (its amazing
how much crap collects on something buried inside a door}
  There is a part # stamped onto the arm which reads...7960626 RH.
........7960627 LH..I have the left hand "scissor" the right hand one 
was missing when I bought the car. I have been to the "Big 3" parts 
guys and the #'s don't match anything they have on record.....I 
thought it might be a Ford piece as I know that Jag used some Ford 
stuff in the 60's.
    Any leads greatly appreciated 
 Dave#5577  








--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Donny Lang" <indigo@t...> wrote:
> Dave, Because the power windows in my '69/'70 car do not currently 
operate (the whole car does not operate either!), I have looked 
closely at the mechanism which consists of an electric motor and a 
small scissors jack assembly which raises and lowers the glass- also 
called a regulator. It looks like a generic 1960s British power window 
assembly. Since I was parting out a Jaguar Mk 10 (same as a later 
420G) with power windows, I removed two of the assemblies. They look 
like the same motor, though the long "screw" part of the Mk 10 
regulator is longer. It looks like I can combine the Marcos regulator 
and the Jag motors to end up with working units. I haven't attempted 
this yet, as I have a lot more important details to attend to first. 
Maybe this weekend, I will try to confirm if the parts interchange. 
Any other leads anyone? 
> Donny Lang - "69 or '70 RHD V-4 "unknown number" imported to Long 
Island in the early 1980s, Originally yellow, now red at least since 
the early 1980s. Any leads on my car's number?    
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: dbarton62 
>   To: MarcosManiacs@y... 
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:21 PM
>   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Power Windows
> 
> 
>   Hi Group,
>          Who knows what the source was for the power window 
regulators??
>                      Dave #5577
> 
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Hi guys,

While everyone has power windows on their minds, I thought it would be an
appropriate time to ask if anyone has replaced or restored the door glass.
The passenger window on my car became dislodged last fall and I have been
intending to rectify the problem before the season starts next month. It
appears that the channel into which the glass is mounted has corroded, so it
probably entails removing the mechanism and doing something to arrest the
rust before putting it back together. Has anyone undertaken a task similar
to this? I'd be intersted in finding out the best way to accomplish the task
with the least amount of down time. Any pointers would be much appreciated.

Regards,

Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:24 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Power Windows


Thanks Donny
      I have sandblasted all the crud off the "scissor" (its amazing
how much crap collects on something buried inside a door}
  There is a part # stamped onto the arm which reads...7960626 RH.
........7960627 LH..I have the left hand "scissor" the right hand one 
was missing when I bought the car. I have been to the "Big 3" parts 
guys and the #'s don't match anything they have on record.....I 
thought it might be a Ford piece as I know that Jag used some Ford 
stuff in the 60's.
    Any leads greatly appreciated 
 Dave#5577  








--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Donny Lang" <indigo@t...> wrote:
> Dave, Because the power windows in my '69/'70 car do not currently 
operate (the whole car does not operate either!), I have looked 
closely at the mechanism which consists of an electric motor and a 
small scissors jack assembly which raises and lowers the glass- also 
called a regulator. It looks like a generic 1960s British power window 
assembly. Since I was parting out a Jaguar Mk 10 (same as a later 
420G) with power windows, I removed two of the assemblies. They look 
like the same motor, though the long "screw" part of the Mk 10 
regulator is longer. It looks like I can combine the Marcos regulator 
and the Jag motors to end up with working units. I haven't attempted 
this yet, as I have a lot more important details to attend to first. 
Maybe this weekend, I will try to confirm if the parts interchange. 
Any other leads anyone? 
> Donny Lang - "69 or '70 RHD V-4 "unknown number" imported to Long 
Island in the early 1980s, Originally yellow, now red at least since 
the early 1980s. Any leads on my car's number?    
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: dbarton62 
>   To: MarcosManiacs@y... 
>   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:21 PM
>   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Power Windows
> 
> 
>   Hi Group,
>          Who knows what the source was for the power window 
regulators??
>                      Dave #5577
> 
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The part numbers would appear to be BMC or Triumph type reference numbers. I
would check with some of the bigger suppliers (like Rimmer Bros) for
listings on MG, Mini, or possibly TR4,5,6,Spitfire.

David McCubbin

-----Original Message-----
From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@...] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:24 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Power Windows

Thanks Donny
      I have sandblasted all the crud off the "scissor" (its amazing
how much crap collects on something buried inside a door}
  There is a part # stamped onto the arm which reads...7960626 RH.
........7960627 LH..I have the left hand "scissor" the right hand one 
was missing when I bought the car. I have been to the "Big 3" parts 
guys and the #'s don't match anything they have on record.....I 
thought it might be a Ford piece as I know that Jag used some Ford 
stuff in the 60's.
    Any leads greatly appreciated 
 Dave#5577

Hi Paul & Group
     I have got the windows out of my car at the moment ........
the power window setup is pretty easy to remove there is a frame 
behind the f'glass substructure that the regulator bolts to .
  Undo the bolts and the whole mechanism should pull out .
  I did replace both of the side windows on my car and to my surprise 
they were not identical sizes one of the windows was about 2" taller
and about a half inch longer. I did also have the door window frames
stripped and powder coated to match the body color, they were also
(and obviously) different sizes which tells me that the molds, for the 
door openings at least ,were less than perfect, not that it matters
after all they are basically hand built cars.
    There have been quite a few surprises throughout my restoration
and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the moment I 
am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward Dream 
Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the musclecar
guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
              Cheers Dave #5577













--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> While everyone has power windows on their minds, I thought it would 
be an
> appropriate time to ask if anyone has replaced or restored the door 
glass.
> The passenger window on my car became dislodged last fall and I have 
been
> intending to rectify the problem before the season starts next 
month. It
> appears that the channel into which the glass is mounted has 
corroded, so it
> probably entails removing the mechanism and doing something to 
arrest the
> rust before putting it back together. Has anyone undertaken a task 
similar
> to this? I'd be intersted in finding out the best way to accomplish 
the task
> with the least amount of down time. Any pointers would be much 
appreciated.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dbarton62 [mailto:dbarton62@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 12:24 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Power Windows
> 
> 
> Thanks Donny
>       I have sandblasted all the crud off the "scissor" (its amazing
> how much crap collects on something buried inside a door}
>   There is a part # stamped onto the arm which reads...7960626 RH.
> ........7960627 LH..I have the left hand "scissor" the right hand 
one 
> was missing when I bought the car. I have been to the "Big 3" parts 
> guys and the #'s don't match anything they have on record.....I 
> thought it might be a Ford piece as I know that Jag used some Ford 
> stuff in the 60's.
>     Any leads greatly appreciated 
>  Dave#5577  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "Donny Lang" <indigo@t...> wrote:
> > Dave, Because the power windows in my '69/'70 car do not currently 
> operate (the whole car does not operate either!), I have looked 
> closely at the mechanism which consists of an electric motor and a 
> small scissors jack assembly which raises and lowers the glass- also 
> called a regulator. It looks like a generic 1960s British power 
window 
> assembly. Since I was parting out a Jaguar Mk 10 (same as a later 
> 420G) with power windows, I removed two of the assemblies. They look 
> like the same motor, though the long "screw" part of the Mk 10 
> regulator is longer. It looks like I can combine the Marcos 
regulator 
> and the Jag motors to end up with working units. I haven't attempted 
> this yet, as I have a lot more important details to attend to first. 
> Maybe this weekend, I will try to confirm if the parts interchange. 
> Any other leads anyone? 
> > Donny Lang - "69 or '70 RHD V-4 "unknown number" imported to Long 
> Island in the early 1980s, Originally yellow, now red at least since 
> the early 1980s. Any leads on my car's number?    
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: dbarton62 
> >   To: MarcosManiacs@y... 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 4:21 PM
> >   Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Power Windows
> > 
> > 
> >   Hi Group,
> >          Who knows what the source was for the power window 
> regulators??
> >                      Dave #5577
> > 
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Hi All,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I just (minutes ago) got our
web-site back on-line.
I apologize for the downage and hope it didn't inconvenience anyone too
bad.
 
Please LMK if you see anything wrong, or have any troubles with the
site.
It seems OK from my end, but nothing is as good a test as you Marcos
Maniacs.
 
Have fun!
Jeff
#8052 1984 Ford V6 GT

Give it another shot. I was just updating the anti-virus software which
required a re-boot and you may have been hitting it then. You may also
have to hit refresh on your browser to get it to stop using cached
information.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...] 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:08 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Hi Jeff,
I'm having trouble getting the pictures to load on the home page and
nothing else will load until the pictures do.
Mike Denman
1966 Marcos 1800
Chassis # 4079
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeff <mailto:DovenWolf@...>  Caraway 
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Hi All,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I just (minutes ago) got our
web-site back on-line.
I apologize for the downage and hope it didn't inconvenience anyone too
bad.
 
Please LMK if you see anything wrong, or have any troubles with the
site.
It seems OK from my end, but nothing is as good a test as you Marcos
Maniacs.
 
Have fun!
Jeff
#8052 1984 Ford V6 GT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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> I apologize for the downage and hope it didn't inconvenience anyone 
too
> bad.
> Please LMK if you see anything wrong, or have any troubles with the
> site.
> It seems OK from my end, but nothing is as good a test as you Marcos
> Maniacs.
>  
> Have fun!
> Jeff
> #8052 1984 Ford V6 GT

Jeff,
Don't apologize, the site looks great, and seems to be working well 
from what this "Maniac" has checked.
Questions on your car---are you still having drivability problems?
My petrol tank was corroded inside, I took it out this winter and had 
it "renewed", Hopefully if this darn Minnesota weather cooperates 
I'll be driving it in less than a month.
Are you the only member with a Ford 2.8 V6(German) on our list in the 
US?  I mention this because I have found a source for rebuilt Ford   
T-9 five speed transmissions.  From what I've learned so far this is 
a bolt in exchange for the four speed with the first four ratios the 
same as the four speed but and with a .80 O/D.  I may have this 
conversion done next winter depending on finances.   I don't know if 
this is also a bolt in exchange for the Essex(English)Ford 3 Litre.   
The source is Pierce Manifolds who offers it in a conversion for MG's 
with all the parts needed for the conversion.   I was quoted $ 750.00 
for just the rebuilt tranny which I've been told is not a bad price.
Just thought I'd mention it as right now I pull 4000 rpm @ 70 MPH, 
the O/D would drop it to about 3200 rpm, easier on me and the 
engine...
All for now,
Paul

Whew!!!! You had me really worried there!
I'm glad to hear everything is working well again though.
 
Thanks for giving it a look.
 
Jeff
#8052

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Denman [mailto:mikedenman@...] 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 12:42 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Hi Jeff,
The problem was on my end this time.  I had a large message coming
through that was "gumming up the works".  The Marcos Web site is working
fine and "looking good"!
Mike Denman
Chassis # 4079
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike <mailto:mikedenman@...>  Denman 
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Hi Jeff,
The home page is still loading very slowly. Then I clicked on the
registry and it hung up about half way through. So I hit the stop button
and the registry page loaded. Something has definitely changed
somewhere.
Mike
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike <mailto:mikedenman@...>  Denman 
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MarcosManiacs] Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Hi Jeff,
I'm having trouble getting the pictures to load on the home page and
nothing else will load until the pictures do.
Mike Denman
1966 Marcos 1800
Chassis # 4079
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jeff <mailto:DovenWolf@...>  Caraway 
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 8:00 PM
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Hi All,
I just wanted to let everyone know that I just (minutes ago) got our
web-site back on-line.
I apologize for the downage and hope it didn't inconvenience anyone too
bad.
 
Please LMK if you see anything wrong, or have any troubles with the
site.
It seems OK from my end, but nothing is as good a test as you Marcos
Maniacs.
 
Have fun!
Jeff
#8052 1984 Ford V6 GT
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Hi Paul,
Thanks for giving the site a check.
 
I did get the drivability problem solved (with much appreciated help
from Mike Denman!). It took a while to track it down, but it turned out
to be a flaky ballast resistor and condenser in the ignition system.
 
I think you and I are the only two members with the Cologne (German) 2.8
Liter V6. I haven't heard of any other cars over here having that
engine.
That's really cool news about the transmission. I haven't priced
transmissions lately, but that doesn't seem too far out of line for
something of this nature. I'd be very interested in the source
information. I may look into this at some point as my car seems to be
developing shifting problems now that I have the other problem fixed.
There's always something isn't there? ;-)
 
Hope the weather clears for you soon,
Jeff
#8052

-----Original Message-----
From: weidnerpaul [mailto:pweidn@cs.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:30 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Web-site update... We're baaaaaaack!!!!!
 
Jeff,
Don't apologize, the site looks great, and seems to be working well 
from what this "Maniac" has checked.
Questions on your car---are you still having drivability problems?
My petrol tank was corroded inside, I took it out this winter and had 
it "renewed", Hopefully if this darn Minnesota weather cooperates 
I'll be driving it in less than a month.
Are you the only member with a Ford 2.8 V6(German) on our list in the 
US?  I mention this because I have found a source for rebuilt Ford   
T-9 five speed transmissions.  From what I've learned so far this is 
a bolt in exchange for the four speed with the first four ratios the 
same as the four speed but and with a .80 O/D.  I may have this 
conversion done next winter depending on finances.   I don't know if 
this is also a bolt in exchange for the Essex(English)Ford 3 Litre.   
The source is Pierce Manifolds who offers it in a conversion for MG's 
with all the parts needed for the conversion.   I was quoted $ 750.00 
for just the rebuilt tranny which I've been told is not a bad price.
Just thought I'd mention it as right now I pull 4000 rpm @ 70 MPH, 
the O/D would drop it to about 3200 rpm, easier on me and the 
engine...
All for now,
Paul





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Dave Barton

Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active Handling" 
kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs AND 
shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup of the 
Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made your 
purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 

Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found one 
surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 inch 
bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 1/8" 
of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 3000 
miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  Since 
replaced with stainless (the proper length).

Hope you make the "Cruise"!

Don Lattimer
#3M5759 V6
Willits, CA


>     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my restoration
> and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the moment 
I 

> am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward Dream 
> Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the musclecar
> guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
>               Cheers Dave #5577

Hi Don
     I have installed them in my car .......it is only a rolling 
chassis right now though but the suspension has a lot of adjustment.
  However don't be misled ...the shocks aren't adjustable just the 
springs......the decision to use that style of spring/shock set-up
is that the street rod guys use it as well as the stock car 
guys.......it seems to work for them.
   As I said when I first wrote about these shocks be sure you get the 
correct "ends" for your application.I had to fab new brackets for the 
rears on my car ( I was going to anyway)          
               Cheers Dave #5577












--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Dave Barton
> 
> Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
> Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active 
Handling" 
> kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs AND 
> shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup of the 
> Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made your 
> purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 
> 
> Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found one 
> surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 inch 
> bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 1/8" 
> of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 3000 
> miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  Since 
> replaced with stainless (the proper length).
> 
> Hope you make the "Cruise"!
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759 V6
> Willits, CA
> 
> 
> >     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my 
restoration
> > and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the moment 
> I 
> > am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward Dream 
> > Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the 
musclecar
> > guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
> >               Cheers Dave #5577

Dave,

Thanks for the reply.  I've checked out the shock company's website 
and they have both adjustable and non-adjustable coil-over shocks.  
They also have adapters like you fabricated. (go 
to "Motorsports", "Drag and Street Shocks", "Accessories", Eyelet 
Bottom Stud Conversion")

I didn't know if you had checked out this site or not.  What would 
you think of having both the springs and shocks adjustable??  Anyone 
else have an opinion?

OOps, website is www.halshocks.com 

Don Lattimer
#3M5759
Willits, CA


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "dbarton62" <dbarton62@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Don
>      I have installed them in my car .......it is only a rolling 
> chassis right now though but the suspension has a lot of adjustment.
>   However don't be misled ...the shocks aren't adjustable just the 
> springs......the decision to use that style of spring/shock set-up
> is that the street rod guys use it as well as the stock car 
> guys.......it seems to work for them.
>    As I said when I first wrote about these shocks be sure you get 
the 
> correct "ends" for your application.I had to fab new brackets for 
the 
> rears on my car ( I was going to anyway)          
>                Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > Dave Barton
> > 
> > Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
> > Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active 
> Handling" 
> > kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs AND 
> > shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup of 
the 
> > Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made your 
> > purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 
> > 
> > Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found one 
> > surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 
inch 
> > bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 
1/8" 
> > of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 
3000 
> > miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  Since 
> > replaced with stainless (the proper length).
> > 
> > Hope you make the "Cruise"!
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3M5759 V6
> > Willits, CA
> > 
> > 
> > >     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my 
> restoration
> > > and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the 
moment 
> > I 
> > > am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward 
Dream 

> > > Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the 
> musclecar
> > > guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
> > >               Cheers Dave #5577

Don,
   Having both adjustable would give you almost infinite adjustment
for ride comfort as well as ride control.
    I didn't feel I needed to have the adjustable shocks I prefer a 
stiffer ride ........kind of like seat of the pants feel
              Regards Dave #5577








--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I've checked out the shock company's website 
> and they have both adjustable and non-adjustable coil-over shocks.  
> They also have adapters like you fabricated. (go 
> to "Motorsports", "Drag and Street Shocks", "Accessories", Eyelet 
> Bottom Stud Conversion")
> 
> I didn't know if you had checked out this site or not.  What would 
> you think of having both the springs and shocks adjustable??  Anyone 
> else have an opinion?
> 
> OOps, website is www.halshocks.com 
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759
> Willits, CA
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "dbarton62" <dbarton62@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Don
> >      I have installed them in my car .......it is only a rolling 
> > chassis right now though but the suspension has a lot of 
adjustment.
> >   However don't be misled ...the shocks aren't adjustable just the 
> > springs......the decision to use that style of spring/shock set-up
> > is that the street rod guys use it as well as the stock car 
> > guys.......it seems to work for them.
> >    As I said when I first wrote about these shocks be sure you get 
> the 
> > correct "ends" for your application.I had to fab new brackets for 
> the 
> > rears on my car ( I was going to anyway)          
> >                Cheers Dave #5577
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > Dave Barton
> > > 
> > > Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
> > > Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active 
> > Handling" 
> > > kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs 
AND 
> > > shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup of 
> the 
> > > Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made 
your 
> > > purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 
> > > 
> > > Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found 
one 

> > > surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 
> inch 
> > > bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 
> 1/8" 
> > > of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 
> 3000 
> > > miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  Since 
> > > replaced with stainless (the proper length).
> > > 
> > > Hope you make the "Cruise"!
> > > 
> > > Don Lattimer
> > > #3M5759 V6
> > > Willits, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my 
> > restoration
> > > > and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the 
> moment 
> > > I 
> > > > am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward 
> Dream 
> > > > Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the 
> > musclecar
> > > > guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
> > > >               Cheers Dave #5577

Don,

I may have this wrong but I thought adjustable springs controlled the ride
height and adjustable shocks controlled the stiffness of the ride.
Personally, if it improves the handling, I prefer a stiff ride but there may
be a few amongst us who like it soft.

Regards,
           
Paul Dransfield
3 litre Volvo

-----Original Message-----
From: mcaqmd [mailto:donlattimer@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:21 PM
To: MarcosManiacs@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Power Windows/Springs/D Barton


Dave,

Thanks for the reply.  I've checked out the shock company's website 
and they have both adjustable and non-adjustable coil-over shocks.  
They also have adapters like you fabricated. (go 
to "Motorsports", "Drag and Street Shocks", "Accessories", Eyelet 
Bottom Stud Conversion")

I didn't know if you had checked out this site or not.  What would 
you think of having both the springs and shocks adjustable??  Anyone 
else have an opinion?

OOps, website is www.halshocks.com 

Don Lattimer
#3M5759
Willits, CA


--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "dbarton62" <dbarton62@y...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Don
>      I have installed them in my car .......it is only a rolling 
> chassis right now though but the suspension has a lot of adjustment.
>   However don't be misled ...the shocks aren't adjustable just the 
> springs......the decision to use that style of spring/shock set-up
> is that the street rod guys use it as well as the stock car 
> guys.......it seems to work for them.
>    As I said when I first wrote about these shocks be sure you get 
the 
> correct "ends" for your application.I had to fab new brackets for 
the 
> rears on my car ( I was going to anyway)          
>                Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > Dave Barton
> > 
> > Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
> > Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active 
> Handling" 
> > kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs AND 
> > shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup of 
the 
> > Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made your 
> > purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 
> > 
> > Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found one 
> > surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 
inch 
> > bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 
1/8" 
> > of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 
3000 
> > miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  Since 
> > replaced with stainless (the proper length).
> > 
> > Hope you make the "Cruise"!
> > 
> > Don Lattimer
> > #3M5759 V6
> > Willits, CA
> > 
> > 
> > >     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my 
> restoration
> > > and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the 
moment 
> > I 
> > > am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward 
Dream 
> > > Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the 
> musclecar
> > > guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
> > >               Cheers Dave #5577



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Hi therer everyone 
On the topic of springs. I changed mine last year the ones that were 
on the car were rubbing on the new shockers. Micael Royson lended me 
a pair that he had laying around. The ride quality went from soft and 
bottoming out (Silencers) to stiff! but predictable ( easy 
controllable slides)Unfortunately they are a bit long and I thinking 
about shortening them.  What length and dia is the most used? 

Painted half of the chassi after welding  lying behind schedule as I 
had a bike accident knee and chin and can not work on the car. But 
really need too get the Marcos on the road again before I have a 
serious accident =80

Nulla dies sines Marcos


-- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Don,
> 
> I may have this wrong but I thought adjustable springs controlled 
the ride
> height and adjustable shocks controlled the stiffness of the ride.
> Personally, if it improves the handling, I prefer a stiff ride but 
there may
> be a few amongst us who like it soft.
> 
> Regards,
>            
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcaqmd [mailto:donlattimer@p...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Power Windows/Springs/D Barton
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I've checked out the shock company's website 
> and they have both adjustable and non-adjustable coil-over shocks.  
> They also have adapters like you fabricated. (go 
> to "Motorsports", "Drag and Street Shocks", "Accessories", Eyelet 
> Bottom Stud Conversion")
> 
> I didn't know if you had checked out this site or not.  What would 
> you think of having both the springs and shocks adjustable??  
Anyone 
> else have an opinion?
> 
> OOps, website is www.halshocks.com 
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759
> Willits, CA
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "dbarton62" <dbarton62@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Don
> >      I have installed them in my car .......it is only a rolling 
> > chassis right now though but the suspension has a lot of 
adjustment.
> >   However don't be misled ...the shocks aren't adjustable just 
the 
> > springs......the decision to use that style of spring/shock set-up
> > is that the street rod guys use it as well as the stock car 
> > guys.......it seems to work for them.
> >    As I said when I first wrote about these shocks be sure you 
get 
> the 
> > correct "ends" for your application.I had to fab new brackets for 
> the 
> > rears on my car ( I was going to anyway)          
> >                Cheers Dave #5577
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > Dave Barton
> > > 
> > > Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
> > > Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active 
> > Handling" 
> > > kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs 
AND 
> > > shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup 
of 
> the 
> > > Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made 
your 
> > > purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 
> > > 
> > > Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found 
one 
> > > surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 
> inch 
> > > bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 
> 1/8" 
> > > of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 
> 3000 
> > > miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  
Since 
> > > replaced with stainless (the proper length).
> > > 
> > > Hope you make the "Cruise"!
> > > 
> > > Don Lattimer
> > > #3M5759 V6
> > > Willits, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my 
> > restoration
> > > > and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the 
> moment 
> > > I 
> > > > am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward 
> Dream 
> > > > Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the 
> > musclecar
> > > > guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
> > > >               Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> 
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Hi Paul
      From what I understand , and I am not a suspension builder ,
the shorter the spring (the more it is compressed)the stiffer the ride
  The shock controls the jounce (the rebounding of the suspension)
  Herb Adams who is the designer of the early Pontiac Trans-Ams 
suspension has 
a great book out on the subject and he recommends using shorter 
springs with the same spring rate as stock and stock shocks to improve 
handling without harshening the ride.
              Regards Dave #5577
 






--- In MarcosManiacs@y..., pauldransfield@i... wrote:
> Don,
> 
> I may have this wrong but I thought adjustable springs controlled 
the ride
> height and adjustable shocks controlled the stiffness of the ride.
> Personally, if it improves the handling, I prefer a stiff ride but 
there may
> be a few amongst us who like it soft.
> 
> Regards,
>            
> Paul Dransfield
> 3 litre Volvo
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mcaqmd [mailto:donlattimer@p...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 1:21 PM
> To: MarcosManiacs@y...
> Subject: [MarcosManiacs] Re: Power Windows/Springs/D Barton
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I've checked out the shock company's website 
> and they have both adjustable and non-adjustable coil-over shocks.  
> They also have adapters like you fabricated. (go 
> to "Motorsports", "Drag and Street Shocks", "Accessories", Eyelet 
> Bottom Stud Conversion")
> 
> I didn't know if you had checked out this site or not.  What would 
> you think of having both the springs and shocks adjustable??  Anyone 
> else have an opinion?
> 
> OOps, website is www.halshocks.com 
> 
> Don Lattimer
> #3M5759
> Willits, CA
> 
> 
> --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "dbarton62" <dbarton62@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Don
> >      I have installed them in my car .......it is only a rolling 
> > chassis right now though but the suspension has a lot of 
adjustment.
> >   However don't be misled ...the shocks aren't adjustable just the 
> > springs......the decision to use that style of spring/shock set-up
> > is that the street rod guys use it as well as the stock car 
> > guys.......it seems to work for them.
> >    As I said when I first wrote about these shocks be sure you get 
> the 
> > correct "ends" for your application.I had to fab new brackets for 
> the 
> > rears on my car ( I was going to anyway)          
> >                Cheers Dave #5577
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In MarcosManiacs@y..., "mcaqmd" <donlattimer@p...> wrote:
> > > Dave Barton
> > > 
> > > Dave, have you installed the springs/shocks you got from Summit 
> > > Racing yet??  I'm leaning in that direction vs. the "Active 
> > Handling" 
> > > kit.  It would seem to me that having both adjustable springs 
AND 
> > > shocks would give much more flexibility than the static setup of 
> the 
> > > Active Handling" kit.  What were your thoughts when you made 
your 
> > > purchase decision??  Have you used them in other cars,etc? 
> > > 
> > > Mine is off the jackstands and almost ready to ride!!!  Found 
one 
> > > surprise this winter........whoever rebuilt the engine used 1 
> inch 
> > > bolts to attach the exhaust headers.  That translates to about 
> 1/8" 
> > > of the bolt threading into the head.  And to think I drove it 
> 3000 
> > > miles last summer and the headers didn't drop off!  Luck!  Since 
> > > replaced with stainless (the proper length).
> > > 
> > > Hope you make the "Cruise"!
> > > 
> > > Don Lattimer
> > > #3M5759 V6
> > > Willits, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >     There have been quite a few surprises throughout my 
> > restoration
> > > > and I will put them down on paper at the end .......for the 
> moment 
> > > I 
> > > > am trying to get the car finished in time for the Woodward 
> Dream 
> > > > Cruise in Detroit in August.........what do you think the 
> > musclecar
> > > > guys will think of a Brit car showing them up.?
> > > >               Cheers Dave #5577
> 
> 
> 
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