Mellotronists

"What I'm saying is that the "101st" song (the number is not an absolute, just a recommendation) is what should be the first public one. "
 
When does the clock start ticking...  Stevie Ray Vaughn could play every lick of Jimi by the age of 12...  Does that mean "Love Struck Baby" doesn't count?
 
Or, "Astral Traveller"??
 
I guess what I'm saying is, just be open minded...
 
And, you're welcome to jam at my house anytime...  You will leave happy...
 
Just bring 24 Guiness!!!  lol...

jonesalley <jonesalley@...> wrote:
Please don't think I'm trying to start an argument with you, but I don't think that is very good logic.  What I'm saying is that the "101st" song (the number is not an absolute, just a recommendation) is what should be the first public one.  I'm tired of people using my ears as their refrigerator door.  It's fine to be proud of early efforts but keep them private and take them as what they are, practice in learning how to write, and let's not pretend that they are really worth listening to any more than the crayon drawings on the refrigerator are great art. Listen to the state of contemporary music.  The stuff that is saturating the air is so clumsy and amateurish, yet it is being foisted upon a musically illiterate public as great work. Music written by people who can't play, who really don't know much about music other than a collection of licks and hand positions, hackneyed song structure, lines lifted whole cloth from other compositions, is being lifted to high acclaim by people
 who should know better simply because it is making them rich.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: zappaboggs 
To: Mellotronists 
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] yes, another rebuttal


Although I hear where you're coming from, if it wasn't for the people who liked the 62nd song, you would never of heard of the 100th...
 
<sarcasm>For the record, my Dad, who owned a bar that booked bands, thought mine was number 63...  </sarcasm> 


jonesalley <jonesalley@...> wrote:
It's really not a matter of anger, but I have made this observation before 
(not to this list) and have been castigated for it, almost always by people 
who think it is a personal attack and misinterpret what I am trying to say 
beyond belief.  I don't mind being beaten on, but at least beat me up for 
what I say, not what I didn't say.

One of these days, I may get bold enough to post some of my stuff.  Don't 
hold your breath, my music is aimed at a very small audience.  Me.  I don't 
expect anybody else to like it, I don't even care.  I don't pretend to be a 
great composer, I don't think that I suck, either.  Maybe at some point I'll 
write something that I see more merit than flaw in and I'll be so excited 
I'll be sending it to everyone I can.  I doubt it.

I think part of my problem is that I only want to write music so powerful as 
to be utterly transcendent.  I'm not sure that is even possible, but 
occasionally I hear music that has such near compositional and arrangement 
perfection as I think is possible, and then I return to the real world with 
so much horrible music, amateurishly written, clumsily arranged, and wonder 
why so many people are so forgiving and are satisfied with the same droning 
pap recycled by countless new faces.

However, thanks for the kind words.  And to anyone who still doesn't get it, 
it isn't about YOUR music, it's about bad music that might even come from 
people who later write great music.  I just don't want to see the crayon 
musings of a four-year old, I want to see his grown up work as a Da Vinci.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: <FDoddy@...>
To: ""jonesalley"" <jonesalley@...>
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] yes, another rebuttal


> WOW!
> Sorry Ignacio  made you so pissed off.  You make great points and if your 
> music composition is half as good as your prose, I imagine I'd love it. 
> Keep the dream alive.
>
>
> All the best,
> fritz
> 




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