Mellotronists

Hi, newbie here,

I don't have a credit card, and i don't want Pinder's $200+ CD... How 
else can I get a sampled mellotron?  

I tried downloading the freebies from the internet and working with 
them on Gigastudio, but it's horrible (esp. the choir)

Does anyone in this group use a sampler?

There are no good free Tron samples. If you want good samples, you 
have to expect to pay for them. $200 is a bargain for all the samples 
on the Pinder CD.

Bernie

--- In Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com, "maikiampietro" 
<maikiampietro@y...> wrote:
> Hi, newbie here,
> 
> I don't have a credit card, and i don't want Pinder's $200+ CD... 
How 

> else can I get a sampled mellotron?  
> 
> I tried downloading the freebies from the internet and working with 
> them on Gigastudio, but it's horrible (esp. the choir)
> 
> Does anyone in this group use a sampler?

maikiampietro wrote:

> >Hi, newbie here,

Welcome!

> >I don't have a credit card, and i don't want Pinder's $200+ CD... How 
> else can I get a sampled mellotron? 
>
> >Does anyone in this group use a sampler?


Well, for those that can't afford a real 'Tron yet--like your truly, I 
would suggest checking the following websites:

The first one that gave me the OMG! reaction was the 'String Box' 
collection from the folks of 'Sonic Implants', located 'Here 
<http://www.sonicimplants.com/Products/vintageimplants.htm>'.
Listen to the Mellotron Demo, and it nearly brings tears to your eyes... 
:) Now, the neat thing is if you have a Creative Labs Sound Blaster 
Live! series card for your 'puter, you may or may not know that along 
with the card and the MIDI software that comes along with it (Most 
likely 'Cakewalk lite', but you still have 256 'voices' available to 
you. :)  ), along with this is something called 'Sound Fonts'-which is 
what the 'String Box' set is.
Just load these things onto the 'puter, and your all set to go! The good 
thing is that for about $60.00, you have the infamous Mellotron flute, 8 
voice choir, and three string settings from the Mark II, Mark III, and 
the classic Mark 400 series. You hear a quick bit of all of them on the 
demo....imagine having that same sound coming of the 'puter speakers.... :D

Now, if you are using the VST-type plug-in's, there are some folks from 
the UK that you can look up for 'Tron samples, they are called the 
M-Tron plug-in's, and they can be found 'Here 
<http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/>' for an overview. I also 
like the way the interface looks also. Very similar to the control panel 
and keyboard of a real 'Tron, right down to the drink rings and 
cigarette burns on the top panel. :)

Also, take a look at just how they got these samples done, and the 
amount of sounds available....At the present there are two volumes out 
now. Volume One Here 
<http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/index_nu.html>, and Volume Two 
Here. <http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/index_nu.html> They are 
coming out with a Volume Three sometime soon. Outside of Mike Pinder who 
used to be the original keyboard player for the Moodies, this is looking 
to be the most extensive sounds of the 'Tron, and Chamberlin around.

And as far as I can make out, the volumes themselves cost about $50.00 
each. :)

Just the Mike Pinder's Mellotron CD-ROM at the Mellotron 
<www.mellotron.com> website costs $250.00.....anyway, the US address for 
the 'M-Tron' software can be found below....

Where In The US To Purchase:
USA, Canada & South America
eBlitz Audio Labs
615 N. Nash St.
Suite 206-B
El Segundo
CA. 90245
Tel: +1 805 258 1465
Fax: +1 310 322 3334
Email:eblitzaudiolabs@... <mailto:eblitzaudiolabs@...>

Sorry if I seem like a sales person here, but I hope this could help.... :)

Firstly, the Pinder CD is 200.00, not 250.00 and
secondly, the M-Tron set sounds like a BAD
tron....yes, a tron...but a BAD tron...and who gives a
rats bum about that goofy resource stealing graphic?
Keep that stuff out of my "Puter" thanks.

Mark.
--- Richard Lowman <rvolpfox@...> wrote:
> maikiampietro wrote:
> 
> > >Hi, newbie here,
> 
> Welcome!
> 
> > >I don't have a credit card, and i don't want
> Pinder's $200+ CD... How 
> > else can I get a sampled mellotron? 
> >
> > >Does anyone in this group use a sampler?
> 
> 
> Well, for those that can't afford a real 'Tron
> yet--like your truly, I 
> would suggest checking the following websites:
> 
> The first one that gave me the OMG! reaction was the
> 'String Box' 
> collection from the folks of 'Sonic Implants',
> located 'Here 
>
<http://www.sonicimplants.com/Products/vintageimplants.htm>'.
> Listen to the Mellotron Demo, and it nearly brings
> tears to your eyes... 
> :) Now, the neat thing is if you have a Creative
> Labs Sound Blaster 
> Live! series card for your 'puter, you may or may
> not know that along 
> with the card and the MIDI software that comes along
> with it (Most 
> likely 'Cakewalk lite', but you still have 256
> 'voices' available to 
> you. :)  ), along with this is something called
> 'Sound Fonts'-which is 
> what the 'String Box' set is.
> Just load these things onto the 'puter, and your all
> set to go! The good 
> thing is that for about $60.00, you have the
> infamous Mellotron flute, 8 
> voice choir, and three string settings from the Mark
> II, Mark III, and 
> the classic Mark 400 series. You hear a quick bit of
> all of them on the 
> demo....imagine having that same sound coming of the
> 'puter speakers.... :D
> 
> Now, if you are using the VST-type plug-in's, there
> are some folks from 
> the UK that you can look up for 'Tron samples, they
> are called the 
> M-Tron plug-in's, and they can be found 'Here 
> <http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/>' for an
> overview. I also 
> like the way the interface looks also. Very similar
> to the control panel 
> and keyboard of a real 'Tron, right down to the
> drink rings and 
> cigarette burns on the top panel. :)
> 
> Also, take a look at just how they got these samples
> done, and the 
> amount of sounds available....At the present there
> are two volumes out 
> now. Volume One Here 
>
<http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/index_nu.html>,
> and Volume Two 
> Here.
>
<http://www.gmediamusic.com/gforce/m-tron/index_nu.html>
> They are 
> coming out with a Volume Three sometime soon.
> Outside of Mike Pinder who 
> used to be the original keyboard player for the
> Moodies, this is looking 
> to be the most extensive sounds of the 'Tron, and
> Chamberlin around.
> 
> And as far as I can make out, the volumes themselves
> cost about $50.00 
> each. :)
> 
> Just the Mike Pinder's Mellotron CD-ROM at the
> Mellotron 
> <www.mellotron.com> website costs
> $250.00.....anyway, the US address for 
> the 'M-Tron' software can be found below....
> 
> Where In The US To Purchase:
> USA, Canada & South America
> eBlitz Audio Labs
> 615 N. Nash St.
> Suite 206-B
> El Segundo
> CA. 90245
> Tel: +1 805 258 1465
> Fax: +1 310 322 3334
> Email:eblitzaudiolabs@...
> <mailto:eblitzaudiolabs@...>
> 
> Sorry if I seem like a sales person here, but I hope
> this could help.... :)
> 


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Thanks to all for your answers to my sample questions.

I have decided to buy every damn Tron sample I can find!

(Wait a minute ... maybe I could take all of that money and buy a real 
TRON!!!)

TK

www.vintagekeyboardsounds.com


On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:08:00 +0100
  "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:

> Dear all
> 
> I keep being asked, via my site, what the 'best' 'Tron 
>samples are. Not sure why people ask me - I own a 
>Mellotron.  :-)   However, I've been thinking I should 
>put a page up on the subject, as it ain't gonna go away. 
>So far, I've listed these:
> 
> Hardware:
> 
> E-mu Vintage Keys module
> Roland Vintage Synth module/expansion card(s)
> Memotron
> 
> Software:
> 
> M-Tron
> Sampletank
> Pinder CD
> JP Hovercraft downloads
> 
> There must be loads of others - can anyone help? I don't 
>need detailed info (that's what the Internet's for), just 
>pointers to any major sample providers I've missed.
> 
> Ta,
> 
> Andy T.
>

On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Andy Thompson wrote:

> Dear all
>
> I keep being asked, via my site, what the 'best' 'Tron samples are. Not sure why people ask me - I own a Mellotron.  :-)   However, I've been thinking I should put a page up on the subject, as it ain't gonna go away. So far, I've listed these:
>
> Hardware:
>
> E-mu Vintage Keys module
> Roland Vintage Synth module/expansion card(s)
> Memotron
>
> Software:
>
> M-Tron
> Sampletank
> Pinder CD
> JP Hovercraft downloads
>
> There must be loads of others - can anyone help? I don't need detailed info (that's what the Internet's for), just pointers to any major sample providers I've missed.


here's another:
http://www.hollowsun.com/cds/newtron_page.html


and another:
http://www.sonicimplants.com/ProductDetail.asp?Item=CDStringBoxes

...:
http://www.vintagekeyboardsounds.com/page_mellotron.html


can't say how good or bad any of them are.

i have a different cdrom at home [not from mellotron archives] that was
so awful i never used it after trying it out. glad it was given to me
because i would be demading a refund if i had paid for it... somebody
had bought it for their sampler and it was not compatible, and after
hearing it they didn't even want to bother converting it...
i can't recall who made it off the top of my head...

wondering why my pinder cdrom does not include clean versions...
jeff

> Ta,
>
> Andy T.
>
>

In a message dated 29/06/2006 20:04:21 GMT Daylight Time, jeffc@...  
writes:

http://www.hollowsun.com/cds/newtron_page.html



"the samples in the NewTron collection are seamlessly looped for infinite  
sustain without the eight second restriction of the original."
 
aaaaaarrrrgggghhhhh.................
 
Norm

----- Original Message ----- 

From: "T" <tipper@...>
To: "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...>
Cc: "Mellotronists" <mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Samples


Hi 'T'

> > Hardware:
> > Roland Vintage Synth module/expansion  card(s)
>
> If it's any help, I just got the Roland M-VS1 this week which include
> several 'Tron-ish sounds.  I'm happy to sample these for you to
> compare, or to provide as samples on this page you're proposing to
> build so that others can compare.  Maybe have a grid of certain notes,
> certain chords, all without effects, from different machines side by
> side?
>
> Just a thought!

And a v.good one, although it would involve me doing a bit of work...  :-)
Typically, the M-VS1 is the only 'Tron sample set I can access, as it's what
I use live, but thanks for the offer! Not sure how I'd collate all the
various samples, though it'd be a bloody good resource...

Andy

Hi Andy,

> Hardware:
> Roland Vintage Synth module/expansion  card(s)

If it's any help, I just got the Roland M-VS1 this week which include
several 'Tron-ish sounds.  I'm happy to sample these for you to
compare, or to provide as samples on this page you're proposing to
build so that others can compare.  Maybe have a grid of certain notes,
certain chords, all without effects, from different machines side by
side?

Just a thought!

Cheers,

T

In a message dated 29/06/2006 19:34:57 GMT Daylight Time,  
andy.thompson@... writes:

E-mu Vintage Keys  module



Also Emu did the Classic Keys, like the VK but without the filters and with  
effects. Even though it is the same samples they sound different because VK 
has  filters. Classic Keys has a hidden low pass filter if you dig deep enough 
but  not in the same class as VK.
 
Norm

There are 2, uh, families of products bearing the Vintage Keys name, or thereabouts. The original Vintage Keys was a Proteus1/2 derived thing, with digital 

> Roland Vintage Synth module/expansion card(s)

I still have that M400 vs. M-VS1 comparison at the bottom of this page:

http://www.kleonard.com/kltunes/tunes.htm

...kl...
M400 #805 - was used in that
M400 #1037 - was used by mice for years