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[Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

[Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

2003-12-09 by Gene Stopp

'yello troniacs...

Here's one that I'm sure has come up before, maybe prior to my joining the
list, and I'd be eager to hear what this most esteemed group would have to
say. I'd like sugggestions on how to go about restoring the original white
finish to an M400.

I'm doing a cleanup/repair/re-align on an M400 belonging to a local musician
friend. It's a Sound Sales M400, that got spray-painted black long ago. He
said to me the other night "please make it white again, if you can!".

My thoughts:

Strip off the black spray paint, with a solvent TBD by experimentation
(thinner, remover, etc.).

Remove the guts.

Fill in rough spots with filler.

Have it painted (or maybe rent a sprayer and do it myself).

My questions:

What kind of paint was originally used? Laquer?

Should I even try to stick to the original type if there's something better?

Is there a standard name for the tone of white used? There are about 1,000
whites out there...

Anybody have a trick to removing the serial number tag so it can be
re-applied after a re-finish?

Tips on wood filler types or techniques specific to trons?

This is something I'm sure I could work my way through eventually, but I'd
love to hear stories and maybe get advice from others who may have done this
in the past.

- Gene

M400S #1023
M400S #1213
M400S #1289

Re: [Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

2003-12-09 by Jerry Korb

Gene Stopp wrote:

> 'yello troniacs...
>
> Here's one that I'm sure has come up before, maybe prior to my joining the
> list, and I'd be eager to hear what this most esteemed group would have to
> say. I'd like sugggestions on how to go about restoring the original white
> finish to an M400.
>
> I'm doing a cleanup/repair/re-align on an M400 belonging to a local musician
> friend. It's a Sound Sales M400, that got spray-painted black long ago. He
> said to me the other night "please make it white again, if you can!".
>
> My thoughts:
>
> Strip off the black spray paint, with a solvent TBD by experimentation
> (thinner, remover, etc.).
>
> Remove the guts.
>
> Fill in rough spots with filler.
>
> Have it painted (or maybe rent a sprayer and do it myself).
>
> My questions:
>
> What kind of paint was originally used? Laquer?
>
> Should I even try to stick to the original type if there's something better?
>
> Is there a standard name for the tone of white used? There are about 1,000
> whites out there...
>
> Anybody have a trick to removing the serial number tag so it can be
> re-applied after a re-finish?
>
> Tips on wood filler types or techniques specific to trons?
>
> This is something I'm sure I could work my way through eventually, but I'd
> love to hear stories and maybe get advice from others who may have done this
> in the past.
>
> - Gene
>
> M400S #1023
> M400S #1213
> M400S #1289

_________________________________________________________________

Hi Gene and gang, I'll be glad to provide some tips.
Email me privately. Frank Stickle on our list has done
several 400's and is an excellent resource as well.

Cheers, Jerry Korb (working on my 5th Tron project.....)

Re: [Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

2003-12-10 by tony

I painted mine black in 1975 and I would not do anything to the cabinet until the insides are removed. Mine had some nail holes to fill and I used a readily available wood filler with good results, sorry I don't remember the name. I did a lot of lacquer painting in earlier years, so I had the experience to put on a nice finish myself.
Can't help you with the color question, I would ask Martin or John. Refinishing is fun, at least to me and I have thought of returning it to the white that I lusted after before I became an owner. But my sounds are dark and black just suits the mood. Best of luck to you and ask around if you decide to have it painted. It's good to have a referral for such a special project.
Tony M400 #510
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From: Jerry Korb
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Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

Gene Stopp wrote:

'yello troniacs...

Here's one that I'm sure has come up before, maybe prior to my joining the
list, and I'd be eager to hear what this most esteemed group would have to
say. I'd like sugggestions on how to go about restoring the original white
finish to an M400.

I'm doing a cleanup/repair/re-align on an M400 belonging to a local musician
friend. It's a Sound Sales M400, that got spray-painted black long ago. He
said to me the other night "please make it white again, if you can!".

My thoughts:

Strip off the black spray paint, with a solvent TBD by experimentation
(thinner, remover, etc.).

Remove the guts.

Fill in rough spots with filler.

Have it painted (or maybe rent a sprayer and do it myself).

My questions:

What kind of paint was originally used? Laquer?

Should I even try to stick to the original type if there's something better?

Is there a standard name for the tone of white used? There are about 1,000
whites out there...

Anybody have a trick to removing the serial number tag so it can be
re-applied after a re-finish?

Tips on wood filler types or techniques specific to trons?

This is something I'm sure I could work my way through eventually, but I'd
love to hear stories and maybe get advice from others who may have done this
in the past.

- Gene

M400S #1023
M400S #1213
M400S #1289

_________________________________________________________________

Hi Gene and gang, I'll be glad to provide some tips.
Email me privately. Frank Stickle on our list has done
several 400's and is an excellent resource as well.

Cheers, Jerry Korb (working on my 5th Tron project.....)

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Re: [Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

2003-12-10 by Wy Mar-Ren

From what I understand, the case is finished in polyester, which means that you can use a regular paint stripper to remove the black paint. Regular stripper will not touch a polyester finish. If you scuff the white up, white cabinet lacquer, or a quick dry enamel will stick pretty good. I should point out here, that this is the only part of mellotron restoration that I know something about, and only from the other refinishing that I do day in and day out.
Phil
AMBITION;
The journey of a thousand miles
sometimes ends, very, very, badly.
Despair.com
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Re: [Mellotronists] M400 refinish question

2003-12-11 by Rick Blechta

On Wednesday, December 10, 2003, at 02:09 PM, tronbros@... wrote:

> We have our cabinets refinished in 2 pack acid catalyst paint, the 
> sort used for kitchen and bathroom cabinets where the enviroment is 
> harsh.  The original paint is sanded off, the edges are relipped, a 
> heavy spray filler is used to level the surface and that is then 
> sanded to a flat surface and then the acid cat. is applied.  We then 
> have a semi matt lacquer applied to avoid lead lines from metal 
> objects.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
> Streetly Electronics - all things MELLOTRONIC - click this 
> link..........
>
> US East Coast Agent: Jimmy Moore - JMoore6397@...
>
>
And I'll have you know that Martin does all that in his livingroom 
while watching the telly of an evening. An amazing man...

Rick FX Console 10030 (He came at me with a spray bomb one night, but I 
told him to F-off!)

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