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2004-07-08 by Mattias Olsson

C´mon don´t badmouth the piano...I have used it a fair deal since I got it four years ago.
A really spooky sound and of course if you add a bit of pitchbending you can get very Dali-esque
effects...
Mattias
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In a message dated 7/7/04 8:47:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ken@... writes:


Although Martin claims he can count "on a gnat's pube"
the number of Mark II piano sets he's made over the years. :-)




Sounds to me like Matin could use a calculator and a new hobby. Those English... always coming up with a new way to accomplish a task.


Frank Stickle (now prparing Huey and Dewey for the Strawbs' Birchmere and NEARfest performances.)




Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-08 by Ken Leonard

At 05:39 AM 7/8/2004, Mattias Olsson wrote:
>C´mon don´t badmouth the piano...I have used it a fair deal since I got it 
>four years ago.
>
>A really spooky sound and of course if you add a bit of pitchbending you 
>can get very Dali-esque
>effects...

The reason I purchased the piano sound was hearing it on Jerry Korb's Mark 
I (that machine's a killer).  I also got the "smooth organ" (which in no 
way is any reference to any one of Martin's body parts) and the rock 
guitar.  Hence the "dreary set".

Had I known the sounds better, I might have gone for the lower 1-2 octaves 
of the rock guitar and the lower 1-2 octaves of the oboe as a set to free 
up a sound selection for something else.  Each of those sounds in the upper 
octave become somewhat grotesque to my ears, but in the lower registers 
they're fine.  I wish the oboe was recorded an octave lower (if that's 
possible in the range of the oboe).

...kl...
M400 #805 - needs more octaves
M400 #1037 - needs more working keys

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-08 by Mattias Olsson

Hey hey,
I got the tapeframe for my 25th birthday and decided that I wanted to go for a set of luxury sounds...Sounds that you might not be using to often but when you do they´ll be just right ( maybe a bit like Martins smooth organ )...So I went for Piano/Vibes w. Vibrato/Wineglasses
And naturally I probably use that set more than for instance the choirs because in my opinion...If you are using the choirs you are definitely making your BIG mellotron statement...A Vibes note here and there for that " bridge over troubled water " ambience ...A Piano chord pitch bended down with reverb and my favorite the wineglasses....Great to use instead of an ebow...They are sounds that are actually pretty easy to incorporate in almost any bands sound...
I think the Mellotron is so much more flexible than a lot of people think...It doesn´t have to be the three violins right ?
So now...I am aiming for a new set...I´d like to go for some MK II rhythms and fills, Mandolin tremoloes and Timpanis or solo female voice...But that will probably change a couple of times until I actually put in my order...
Mattias Olsson
Roth Händle Studios, Stockholm
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At 05:39 AM 7/8/2004, Mattias Olsson wrote:
>C´mon don´t badmouth the piano...I have used it a fair deal since I got it
>four years ago.
>
>A really spooky sound and of course if you add a bit of pitchbending you
>can get very Dali-esque
>effects...

The reason I purchased the piano sound was hearing it on Jerry Korb's Mark
I (that machine's a killer). I also got the "smooth organ" (which in no
way is any reference to any one of Martin's body parts) and the rock
guitar. Hence the "dreary set".

Had I known the sounds better, I might have gone for the lower 1-2 octaves
of the rock guitar and the lower 1-2 octaves of the oboe as a set to free
up a sound selection for something else. Each of those sounds in the upper
octave become somewhat grotesque to my ears, but in the lower registers
they're fine. I wish the oboe was recorded an octave lower (if that's
possible in the range of the oboe).

...kl...
M400 #805 - needs more octaves
M400 #1037 - needs more working keys

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-08 by Ken Leonard

>I got the tapeframe for my 25th birthday

Wow - whoever got this for you is certainly a keeper!  I don't know anyone 
who'd support my Mellotron habit.  I think most of the people I know feel I 
should be in rehab (well, for a variety of reasons).

>( maybe a bit like Martins smooth organ )...

I wouldn't recommend Martin's smooth organ.  It's always flat.

>So I went for Piano/Vibes w. Vibrato/Wineglasses

I'm glad to see the less often used sounds do get some airing once in a 
while.  And, yes, pitch shifts and bends do make the sounds more versatile.

>So now...I am aiming for a new set...I´d like to go for some MK II rhythms 
>and fills, Mandolin tremoloes and Timpanis or solo female voice...But that 
>will probably change a couple of times until I actually put in my order...

Jimmy M. is going through this exercise now for tapes for his FX 
Console.  I think the talk of the various sounds out here is helpful.  You 
have to get the standards - Flute, Brass, 3 Violins, Choir.  But then he 
has 32 other sounds to fill in---of both old and new sounds!  Yikes!!!  :-)

Gee, what an awful "problem" to have, huh?

...kl...
M400 #805 - all talk - no action
M400 #1037 - 33 talk - 2 no action

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Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-08 by Mattias Olsson

Don´t want to be that way...but I have 18 sounds...the normal ones I guess...So I like the idea of expanding into oddness...As I have mentioned earlier on the list..I have recorded an album with just Optigan/orchestron/Mellotron + female vocals and the weirder sounds definitely came very handy...The strangest sound I have now is Hammond B3 bass pedals with single Hammond notes on top...very messy for chords but single notes work just fine...
// Mattias
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>I got the tapeframe for my 25th birthday

Wow - whoever got this for you is certainly a keeper! I don't know anyone
who'd support my Mellotron habit. I think most of the people I know feel I
should be in rehab (well, for a variety of reasons).

>( maybe a bit like Martins smooth organ )...

I wouldn't recommend Martin's smooth organ. It's always flat.

>So I went for Piano/Vibes w. Vibrato/Wineglasses

I'm glad to see the less often used sounds do get some airing once in a
while. And, yes, pitch shifts and bends do make the sounds more versatile.

>So now...I am aiming for a new set...I´d like to go for some MK II rhythms
>and fills, Mandolin tremoloes and Timpanis or solo female voice...But that
>will probably change a couple of times until I actually put in my order...

Jimmy M. is going through this exercise now for tapes for his FX
Console. I think the talk of the various sounds out here is helpful. You
have to get the standards - Flute, Brass, 3 Violins, Choir. But then he
has 32 other sounds to fill in---of both old and new sounds! Yikes!!! :-)

Gee, what an awful "problem" to have, huh?

...kl...
M400 #805 - all talk - no action
M400 #1037 - 33 talk - 2 no action

** Ken Leonard - Web Table of Contents: http://www.kleonard.com
** Get Outdoors New England: http://www.GONewEngland.org


Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-08 by fdoddy@aol.com

A good oboeist can get to the Bb below the G (if the bottom G on the tron is the bottom G on the oboe).  Best to avoid the extremes of any instrument.  Sounds like you're looking for an English horn/oboe split?

fritZ

Re: [Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-08 by Rick Blechta

On Thursday, July 8, 2004, at 08:42 AM, Mattias Olsson wrote:

 >...I am aiming for a new set...I´d like to go for some MK II rhythms 
and fills, Mandolin tremoloes and Timpanis or solo >female voice...But 
that will probably change a couple of times until I actually put in my 
order

I have the Mandolin on the RH keyboard of my MkII and I can definitely 
recommend it. Very nice, especially when you're trying to fit "Spanish 
Eyes" or "La Paloma" into "Smoke on the Water". It's quite a nice 
sound. Spanish guitar (nylon strings) is also very good and you can 
even fool people into thinking it's the real thing if you voice it 
right.

Rick

PS So Martin's still pushing that "smooth organ?" I think he just does 
it because it sounds rather rude...

[Mellotronists] Mellotron piano

2004-07-09 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

Can someone out there with the piano sound please record me a ten second
snippet for the web site?

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

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