Mellotronists

[I assume this reply was meant for the list:]

> the Pinder CD-ROM is indeed 22.05kHz/16 bits/35 notes.
> 
> Personally, I wish at least the 8-voice choir would have
> been sampled at 44.1 kHz or higher.
> 
> -joachim

I suppose one might argue that the fidelity of the source doesn't 
warrant or require 44.1kHz and that 22.05kHz is sufficient to capture 
the essence of the sound, but it sure would be nice to have full 
bandwidth digital recordings.

If there are any Mellotron owners in the eastern US (Boston area) 
that wouldn't mind having their instrument recorded for samples, let 
me know.

Thanks,

-Jamie Robertson

....and considering the amount of space on a CD for
these full keyboard, full 8 second samples, which
sounds would you sacrifice for the bandwidth required
for sound that doesn't exist? I have the Pinder CD and
I have done samples myself for the sounds that are not
on that CD, using the most stringent criteria I can
for audio difference in 44.1 vs lowered rates, I can't
hear the difference. Of course, some may (and will)
disagree. I've offered AB comparisons at my studio and
no one yet has heard the difference. I think they made
the right choice.

Mark.
--- Joachim Verghese <jocke@...> wrote:
> [I assume this reply was meant for the list:]
> 
> > the Pinder CD-ROM is indeed 22.05kHz/16 bits/35
> notes.
> > 
> > Personally, I wish at least the 8-voice choir
> would have
> > been sampled at 44.1 kHz or higher.
> > 
> > -joachim
> 
> I suppose one might argue that the fidelity of the
> source doesn't 
> warrant or require 44.1kHz and that 22.05kHz is
> sufficient to capture 
> the essence of the sound, but it sure would be nice
> to have full 
> bandwidth digital recordings.
> 
> If there are any Mellotron owners in the eastern US
> (Boston area) 
> that wouldn't mind having their instrument recorded
> for samples, let 
> me know.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Jamie Robertson
> 
> 


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards\ufffd
http://movies.yahoo.com/

I agree 100% with Mark.  Having used the "Pinder" rom to create *sampletron*
for "Under Oriental Skies" & "The Boy Who Gazed At Stars" [on the Systems
Theory "Demos 1999-2000" CD] I must conclude that a 22khz was the right
choice, given the audio fidelity of the original sounds.  3 violins, mixed
brass and 8 voice choir were my sample choices IIRC.  By the time the 22khz
samples are effected [ie. with lush reverb as I did on "UOS"] a 44khz sample
would have bought nothing extra.  Of course, we are replacing the
*sampletron* with the real thing [by Mr. Dickson] for the real album... YMMV
:-)
--
Cheers
SDM -- a 21st century schizoid man
www.systemstheory.net
www.thecleanersystem.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "mark kasian" <easle12@...>
To: "Joachim Verghese" <jocke@...>;
<mellotronists@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Sample source (fwd)


> ....and considering the amount of space on a CD for
> these full keyboard, full 8 second samples, which
> sounds would you sacrifice for the bandwidth required
> for sound that doesn't exist? I have the Pinder CD and
> I have done samples myself for the sounds that are not
> on that CD, using the most stringent criteria I can
> for audio difference in 44.1 vs lowered rates, I can't
> hear the difference. Of course, some may (and will)
> disagree. I've offered AB comparisons at my studio and
> no one yet has heard the difference. I think they made
> the right choice.
>
> Mark.
> --- Joachim Verghese <jocke@...> wrote:
> > [I assume this reply was meant for the list:]
> >
> > > the Pinder CD-ROM is indeed 22.05kHz/16 bits/35
> > notes.
> > >
> > > Personally, I wish at least the 8-voice choir
> > would have
> > > been sampled at 44.1 kHz or higher.
> > >
> > > -joachim
> >
> > I suppose one might argue that the fidelity of the
> > source doesn't
> > warrant or require 44.1kHz and that 22.05kHz is
> > sufficient to capture
> > the essence of the sound, but it sure would be nice
> > to have full
> > bandwidth digital recordings.
> >
> > If there are any Mellotron owners in the eastern US
> > (Boston area)
> > that wouldn't mind having their instrument recorded
> > for samples, let
> > me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Jamie Robertson
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards\ufffd
> http://movies.yahoo.com/
>
>
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> Mellotronists-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>