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"Patches"...and other things...

2006-04-18 by J.P.

Greetings all...

To Rick Blechta:... OOPS... my bad... you are correct, sir. Mellotrons use "taped sounds" not patches! However... as these sounds were sampled off a 'Tron... looped... some notes replaced with stretched samples of adjacent sounds... and used on a sampler... "Patches"... or "Sampled Sounds" would be appropriate in this case.

To Bernie Kornowicz:... I see your point. However... Tony Visconti is one hell of a producer... and has a great ear for sounds... and furthermore... I've heard these samples in several Moodies concerts (that is when the sound guys turn up the keys to the proper level... a problem in several Moodies concerts I've been at...)... and what I've heard has been damn good! I would LOVE to have these sounds... or samples... or patches... for the MicroTron... along with the Pinder CD-Rom, the G-Force M-Tron... and any other 'Tron samples/sounds that I can get my hands on!

Now to the question of the day... and this is one I've wondered about for a LONG time... When the Mellotron/Chamberlin was created... why only 35 notes??? They were only 2 notes shy of a full 3 octaves... why couldn't they start the keyboard at "F" instead of "G". Wouldn't it be easier to obtain a 3 octave keyboard, than a 35 note keyboard? Was it an instrument range thing? I know Streetly extended the keyboard for the 300... but it was the only time they deviated from the 35 key range, so I'm sure there must have been a reason for this. In the time I've been on the list... I've never seen this question addressed... and I'm sure I'm not the only one curious 'bout this. I'm waiting with baited breath for any answers... which is strange as I didn't have shrimp (or prawns for the non-Americans reading this missive) for lunch!

Thanks again...

J.P.

MicroTron 001 "...patches... taped sounds... samples... whatever one calls them... 'Tron sounds are GREAT!!!"

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Re: "Patches"...and other things...

2006-04-18 by ceccles_ca

When the Mellotron/Chamberlin was created... why only 35 notes??? 

from mellotron.com:
"Chamberlin Model 300/350 (two separate cabinets) and the organ style 
cabinet Model 600/660 Music Master. These machines used 3/8ths in. 
tape and had thirty five keys, G to F. Harry felt that this range was 
enough to cover the useable range of most instruments and still left 
room in the cabinet for another 35 note keyboard..."  

Harry started producing model 300/350 in 1960.

Clay

Re: [Mellotronists] Re: "Patches"...and other things...

2006-04-19 by Andy Thompson

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Subject: [Mellotronists] Re: "Patches"...and other things...

> When the Mellotron/Chamberlin was created... why only 35 notes???
>
> from mellotron.com:
> "Chamberlin Model 300/350 (two separate cabinets) and the organ style
> cabinet Model 600/660 Music Master. These machines used 3/8ths in.
> tape and had thirty five keys, G to F. Harry felt that this range was
> enough to cover the useable range of most instruments and still left
> room in the cabinet for another 35 note keyboard..."

...Which both does and doesn't really answer the question! The keyboard
seems to cover the useable range of the violin, specifically, which could be
where Harry was coming from. That 'still left room in the cabinet for
another 35 note keyboard' bit is particularly weird - why not make the
cabinet marginally bigger?

Andy T.

Re: [Mellotronists] Re: "Patches"...and other things...

2006-04-19 by jonesalley

> At full stretch, Harry 'Homunculus' Chamberlin's reach was only eleven
> inches.


Me too, sad to say, but it seems to keep my lady friends happy...

[Mellotronists] Re: "Patches"...and other things...

2006-04-19 by tron@blackcat.demon.co.uk

In the recent message <001901c66391$fb3685e0$0200a8c0@AndyThompson>
you wrote...

> ...Which both does and doesn't really answer the question! The keyboard
> seems to cover the useable range of the violin, specifically, which could be
> where Harry was coming from. That 'still left room in the cabinet for
> another 35 note keyboard' bit is particularly weird - why not make the
> cabinet marginally bigger?

At full stretch, Harry 'Homunculus' Chamberlin's reach was only eleven
inches.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/