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> ... On the "Music Notation" page... you will find sheet music for the
> first 5 Crimson albums... most hand-written... possibly by Fripp
> himself.

Fripp's handwriting looks nothing like what's on any of these pages;
these are all far too clear. Some of these transcriptions are inaccurate
and quite a few have missing or incorrect sections or lyrics.

> As for the 35 note question I posted a few days ago... thanks for the
> comments... I still believe that with the new 'Trons coming out... both
> analog and digital... increasing the keyboard to a full three octaves,
> is an improvement I'd love to see.

Do you have some sort of problem with your '.' key? Your text reads
like William Shatner doing Samuel Beckett in Greek.

Mike Dickson (tron@...) M400 #996
The Official Cynic of Streetly Electronics
Streetly Sample Library http://www.blackcat.demon.co.uk/tron/

In a message dated 20/04/2006 18:20:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
tron@... writes:

> As  for the 35 note question I posted a few days ago... thanks for the
>  comments... I still believe that with the new 'Trons coming out...  both
> analog and digital... increasing the keyboard to a full three  octaves,
> is an improvement I'd love to  see.



Dear All,
 
35 notes, probably something to do with capstan length... How long a  capstan 
could you reliably make?
 
Norm

----- Original Message -----

From: NormLeete@...

To: tron@... ; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 11:27 PM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Crimson sheet music... and 35 notes

In a message dated 20/04/2006 18:20:23 GMT Daylight Time, tron@... writes:

> As for the 35 note question I posted a few days ago... thanks for the
> comments... I still believe that with the new 'Trons coming out... both
> analog and digital... increasing the keyboard to a full three octaves,
> is an improvement I'd love to see.

Dear All,

35 notes, probably something to do with capstan length... How long a capstan could you reliably make?

Norm

In a message dated 20/04/2006 23:28:04 GMT Standard Time, NormLeete@...  
writes:

Dear All,
 
35 notes, probably something to do with capstan length... How long a  capstan 
could you reliably make?
 
Norm




This is a good point although a little intense!  MKII capstans  were ground 
to 3/10ths of a thou. along their entire length.  Some  achievement in 1964.  
The normal commercial tolerance for ground shafts is  1 thou. which would be 
audibly diabolical.  We hunted high and low to find  a supplier who could match 
and if needs be, improve on the original  tolerance.  Any more run out and you 
would hear it instantly.   M300s can suffer with capstan judder as the extra 
long capstan is unsupported in  the middle and this allows for deflection and 
ringing.  They can be an  utter bloody nightmare to dampen.  You can find out 
more in Capstan  Monthly, available weekly from any butchers.
 
Best,

 
Martin
 

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In a message dated 21/04/2006 08:13:39 GMT Standard Time,  jonesalley@... 
writes:

I just love it!  In all sincerity, it is  truly a delight and a privilege to 
be able to unabashedly wallow in this kind  of Mellotron-obsessed geekdom with 
all of you folks.  Some of the  minutiae are things that it never would have 
occurred to me to even wonder  about and it really makes me appreciate just 
how cutting-edge the  instruments were as well as how hard the technology of the 
time  had to be pushed to make them feasible.



Norm, let's bore 'em rigid with germanium transistors, flip flop  circuits 
and the cutting edge nature of the SSCU.  Jon is ripe for the  picking.  
 
Best,
 
Martin

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----- Original Message -----

From: TRONBROS@...

To: jonesalley@... ; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:18 AM

Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Crimson sheet music... and 35 notes

In a message dated 21/04/2006 08:13:39 GMT Standard Time, jonesalley@... writes:

I just love it! In all sincerity, it is truly a delight and a privilege to be able to unabashedly wallow in this kind of Mellotron-obsessed geekdom with all of you folks. Some of the minutiae are things that it never would have occurred to me to even wonder about and it really makes me appreciate just how cutting-edge the instruments were as well as how hard the technology of the time had to be pushed to make them feasible.

Norm, let's bore 'em rigid with germanium transistors, flip flop circuits and the cutting edge nature of the SSCU. Jon is ripe for the picking.

Best,

Martin

STREETLY ELECTRONICS - All things Mellotronic
www.mellotronics.co.uk
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US West Coast Agent - Paul Cox pjc56@...

In a message dated 21/04/2006 08:13:39 GMT Daylight Time,  jonesalley@... 
writes:

just  how cutting-edge the instruments were as well as how hard the  
technology of the time had to be pushed to make them  feasible.


Dear All,
 
Very cutting edge. It seems to me that things have gone backwards since  
then. I was an apprentice (old-school, where you make tea for a year before they  
let you loose on real things). Nowadays I am being told that you can't make  
things to the sort of tolerances that I had made by hand in apprentice  school.
 
When guitar tweaking you often work to similar "impossible"  tolerances!
 
Norm

In a message dated 21/04/2006 08:19:10 GMT Daylight Time, tronbros@...  
writes:

Norm,  let's bore 'em rigid with germanium transistors, flip flop circuits 
and the  cutting edge nature of the SSCU.  Jon is ripe for the  picking. 


How about the influence that cabinet colour has on the final sound...
 
Norm