Wow, good work Mark! Thanks for all the info -- very handy. Cheers Scott Deyo The Bridechamber contact@... http://www.bridechamber.com Jealous Edison Record Kompany http://www.jealousedison.com On May 21, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Mark wrote: > > I recently completed construction and initial testing of the CGS tube > VCA > using a 1SH24B tube. I built it in MOTM-format using a panel and > bracket from Bridechamber. > > The version I built is different than the original circuit. In order > to avoid damaging the PCB from excessive unsoldering, I did not first > build > a stock unmodified version for comparison purposes. > > This is taken from posts I made to the cgs_synth and tubesynthdiy > yagoogroups where I went into more detail as far as my reasons for > doing things. Since no one posted any corrections, I'd thought I'd > go ahead and post it here. > > From what others had said, there were three issues: the output was > noisy, there was a "high-pass effect" or "loss of bass", and there > was a "thump" during the attack of the EG when used as a VCA. This > is a list of changes designed to address those issues: > > I eliminated the two signal diodes, the two LED's, and their 1.5K > resistors. I connected a 1.2K 1/2W resistor between Pin 1 of the > cathode-heater and ground. > > I added a a 47uF axial electrolytic cathode bypass capacitor between > pin 2 of the tube (connected to the negative rail) and ground. Do > not connect it to the ground side of the cathode or the in-rush > current could burn out the heater. > > I replaced the TL072 with an OP275. I eliminated the stock 100nF > bypass caps, and underneath the PCB, added two .1uF ceramic caps with > heat shrink tubing going from ground, with the capacitors as close as > possible to the power pins on the socket. I eliminated the 47pF cap > on the output, and replaced it with a resistor lead. I did not add > the gain resistor. While 330 Ohm is the minimum specified resistor > for output protection, I replaced it with 1K (outside the feedback > path) to have the same output impedance as MOTM. > > I increased the two 220nF coupling caps to 470nF. > > I decreased the CV input resistor to 50K so a 0-5V EG it has about > the same > range as the Gain knob. > > I wired up the SPDT bias switch -- using properly shielded cable -- > to two > settings: > > For a "clean" setting, I added a 20K multi-turn trimmer to the > board. There is an area with some writing without any traces to the > right of the -Ve hole for the stock 330K resistor, where I drilled > two extra holes. The trimmer is wired as a rheostat between -Ve and > the switch. > > For a "distortion" setting, I connected a 475K resistor between > ground and the switch. > > The suspression grid was connected to the negative rail. > > I used Bournes conductive plastic 50K linear pots for all four knobs. > > While it likely varies from 1SH24B to 1SH24B, the tube I have > installed is more than a bit microphonic. Clicking the bias switch > is enough to produce ringing. So I stuffed some anti-static foam in > between the tube and the board to minimize vibration. > > I think that's it. > > These modifications seem to have worked very well. I don't notice > any noise on the output. > > On the clean setting, with a roughly 10Vpp input potted all the way > up, the distortion is barely noticeable. Three things are happening > as the value of the variable resistor is adjusted lower: the grid > becomes more negative, the level of the AC signal decreases, and the > frequency of the high-pass filter increases. As such, there is some > loss of bass, which rolls off gently at the lowest audible > frequencies. With or without a signal, the grid bias is equal to > -15V, due to the low impedance. I would suggest using a 100K > multiturn trimmer instead -- that way you could adjust a "clean" > setting with the input potted down a bit for slightly better bass > response (although the high-pass effect of the original circuit was > due to a lack of cathode bypassing, as the corner frequency of the > stock values of 220nF and 330K in parallel with the grid resistance > was below the audible range). You also might want to try even larger > values for the coupling caps. I used AVX BQ yellow box caps, which > go up to 1uF, but you should double-check the lead spacing. > http://avx.com/docs/catalogs/bf-bq.pdf > > The distortion setting produces obvious distortion, and can produce > oscillations and other noises at various input and feedback settings. > The low frequency response is well below the audio range (so the > module will > just about work as a depth control for a fast LFO). The AC voltage > on the grid is about 3.3 RMS. With a signal the grid measures around > -17.6 VDC (it varies with its frequency), and without a signal the > bias is around -14.1V. > > While the LPF in the CV circuit is the same as the stock circuit, the > cathode bypass cap improves the transient response of the tube > itself. It seems likely that rapid changes in voltage on the control > grid (eg. an envelope with a steep attack) would cause a sudden > demand for plate current enough to deplete the cathode, which then > bounces back causing an unwanted noise. > > There is a bit of a pop or click with a fast envelope, although it is > not any worse than most solid-state VCA's. Changing the signal grid > bias, and switching between the two settings, also effects its CV > response. As such, it is possible to all but eliminate any bleed, > such that there is only a boost at the initial transient for punchy > basses and leads. I found this while experimenting with different > values. It would increase the distortion from the "clean" setting, > but it would still be a very nice feature. I might add that if I can > find a suitable SP3T switch. > > Regardless of the signal level on the grid, or the bias switch > setting, the output of the tube, and therefore the module, is a bit > below 1V RMS, as it seems that is the saturation limit of the tube. > So while the signal on the grid is much higher for the distortion > setting, the difference results in just that -- distortion. In fact, > the "clean" setting measures just a bit more, although the > "distortion" setting sounds louder to to the additional harmonics. > Now 1V RMS is only about 2.8Vpp. Although it is enough on the > board, I might change the gain and feedback resistors to 2K > (resulting in about 5.6Vpp) if it seems too low to work well with my > other modules. > > For those building this in other formats that might have he extra > space, putting a bias rheostat on the panel would be a nice feature. > Using a reversing attenuator for the second input/feedback control is > another option, as negative feedback is also useful. > > So with these modifications there is very little noise, sufficient > bandwidth, and it works fine both as a "regular" VCA and a > distortion/waveshaper module. > > I am open to questions and comments. > > >
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Re: [ModularSynthPanels] CGS tube VCA modifications
2008-05-21 by Scott Deyo
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