Modular Synth Panels

From Larry:
"I do have 4 each of all the panels you want. However, my step
grandson has terminal brain cancer and his make-a-wish project was to
build grand-dad some new modules for Christmas. So, I cannot part
with any of them."

Larry,

A "make-a-wish" project?  Sounds more like taking advantage of a sick 
and dying child! You evil man you - 

Ho, Ho, Ho - 

But you redeem yourself with the mere idea of checking further into 
the anodized 'aluminiumiumium' (thats how my wife pronounces it -
really)
etched panels...I just need the time to do the same myself.

Yet I am glad to see that my initial request has resulted in the 
happy and hopefully fruitful meeting of others with other CGS panel 
needs, etc...always willing to help here - lol

Does anyone here think that Ken might benefit if he offered his own 
panels?  I realize he has his own considerations, etc - and it just 
may be completely unfeasible for him - but he really seems to be 
having a fair amount of success in this DIY world with his, what I 
consider, unique designs and ideas...ok, this is just a nudge towards 
that direction perhaps, but I still am really interested and curious 
about what and why certain players in this arena, only do certain 
things in an almost religious manner?  I don't believe that money is 
the only answer here....

I do not mean to start some strange thread here on 'supply and 
demand'  - I just am truly curious about these things...but if this 
DIY thing keeps getting bigger as it seems to (and the world doesn't 
end too soon) ...well then...Roland, Korg, and Yamaha, will get in 
the game than -eh?  And then it won't be DIY anymore...

Oh well - just some thoughts.

I just got back from Christmas shopping with my 'power shopping' wife 
and am more exhausted than if I climbed Mt. Everest

A-duh

Rog

From: "Roger Rossen" <mididood@...>



>Does anyone here think that Ken might benefit if he offered his own 
>panels?  I realize he has his own considerations, etc - and it just 
>may be completely unfeasible for him - but he really seems to be 
>having a fair amount of success in this DIY world with his, what I 
>consider, unique designs and ideas...ok, this is just a nudge towards 
>that direction perhaps, but I still am really interested and curious 
>about what and why certain players in this arena, only do certain 
>things in an almost religious manner?  I don't believe that money is 
>the only answer here....

The main problem is format - there are too many of them. It is better and a
lot easier to let other people who deal with panels offer panels to suit the
format they prefer. If I was to offer panels, mu preferred format would be
Serge - now how useless would that be to 90% of builders?

Ken
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Modular Synth PCBs for sale <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/synth/>
Australian Miniature Horses & Ponies <http://www.blaze.net.au/~sasami/>

(sorry - long mess. probably OT  - but what the hey - its pretty slow 
around here anyways)

From Ken:
The main problem is format.
...Serge - now how useless would that be to 90% of builders?

Thanks for responding Ken!  Yeah, I would imagine that this would be 
the primary nightmare in trying to get a handle on the 
possible 'market' out there.  And perhaps I have tunnel vision from 
being primarily MOTM-based, yet it does SEEM, at least, that gravity 
is swaying that way...?!?!  At least in the Western hemisphere....

You would definitely know better than I  - and this may be more of a 
USA trend - don't know - I'd ask Paul (and may sometime) but he seems 
way too busy these days to even be bothered with this issue at this 
point, which I totally understand. Yet he IS doing his 'own' panels, 
and Larry is filling the other 'niche' quite adequately too.  But 
these efforts do seem to be what is driving MOTM to be a leader in 
this DIY thing - don't you think?  Along with some other things too, 
without doubt.

And honestly - my thoughts along this line are based in part due to 
my stubborn creative side (I am a composer/artist too)and I really 
don't want to see MOTM become a "standard" - and I say this with huge 
respect for Paul.  But the MOTM legacy is quite obviously that of, or 
at least was started by, Mr. Moog...?!?! right?  And I guess no one 
can knock that or would even try...

Maybe I'm just reading too much into what is, and should remain, a 
strictly DIY thing.  And perhaps panels are just a necessary evil 
factor, or 'game' we have to play, in this synthDIY construction 
world.  I can live with that.

But Ken - and I really mean this as I do airbrush/graphics art stuff 
too time permitting (and there ain't none of that these days...)- I 
LOVE your panels with the hot little babes on them - that is really 
creative one-of-a-kind work - and really a great marketing device too 
perhaps..?

Plus I just love hot little babes!  But thats the musician in me - I 
think we can all excuse me for that, I pray - it's in the DNA at this 
point...Obviously those designs would probably not be a thing for the 
masses, etc...but...again, I always push towards the creative aspect 
of things.

Who knows - maybe Shaeffer will drop their prices after another 
100,000 of us get into building our synths...it could 
happen...right?!?!?!?  OK - now I'm just rambling here...

Lastly - I will send along some pictures to you privately that I've 
been drawing (in CGS-land i.e.Computer Graphics Software, not the 
esteemed CGS synth stuff!) of your boards and wiring them up, etc.  
It's been helping me to learn the software primarily, and has also 
made it WAY easier to comprehend and then assemble your circuits from 
the 'barebones' approach of them...at least for this old dummy. And 
my recent delving into stuffing all the pcbs I got from you awhile 
ago, has lined-up with all this nicely now.  You might be really 
interested in them...maybe not.  But at least check them out for 
me....

I can only imagine that you would prefer NOT to be on the internet 
answering questions like: "why is there only 1 IC in the schematic 
and yet 3 on the pcb?", etc...as your style is obviously for the 
slightly beyond beginner kind of person.  Although this does go with 
the territory, understood, I'm always looking to make this stuff more 
comprehendable by "the masses" - so that more folks get into it!  
This is good right?
 
Ok  - I'll shut-up now - Thanks again!

Rog

--- Roger Rossen <mididood@...> wrote:
> And perhaps I have tunnel vision from being primarily MOTM-based,
> yet it does SEEM, at least, that gravity is swaying that 
> way...?!?!  At least in the Western hemisphere....

Roger, I really see two significant camps with variations on both
sides.  Camp one: large format like MOTM, Oakley, Synthesizers.com.
Modcan.  Camp two: frac rack format like Blacet, Paia, some Wiard,
D*epfer, Analog Sys.

Primarily those camps seem divided over the same issue.  Small space
with cramped quarters verses plenty of room on a too big synth.  I
say it is kind of like the PC vs. Mac thing.  There is no right
answer, only personal preference.

So, looks like guys like me and companies like Schaeffer are going to
have plenty of format conversion work... until (drum roll).....
Some of the manufacturers wise up and start releasing their product
in both formats.... GASP !!

> Ok  - I'll shut-up now - Thanks again!

Oh sure.  Like we believe that. <snicker>  About as likely as me
doing the same. :)

Larry Hendry (loud mouth Stooge)


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