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Re: Ringer

2009-02-17 by (i think you can figure that out)

I'm not intending to be hostile, I'm sorry if it's coming across this
way.  I am being firm however that we will not be releasing products
at a loss and our costs will run more than the $65 you're suggesting.
Further, the prices you posed to make your point were incorrect.  I
think this is important to state.

Remember - the Ringer is not there to compete against the Doepfer DYI
kit ss that is far form a finshed mounting system.  It's there to
extend an affordable alternative to the $460 minimum per row outlay of
the current Eurorack chassis offerings.

As far as feel 'free to buy the other product', this is all I can
suggest because I do not feel that the lowest price wins.  It's the
best price for what is being offered that wins and that's exactly what
we'll be doing.

I think it would be best if we agree to disagree and move on from this topic.

 - P


--- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" <caymus91@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure why you're so hostile to user feedback ("please by all
means purchase the 
> other unit", Adam Henry). I'm just trying to point out that $175 for
just a frame is is 
> significantly more expensive in most typical customer scenarios.
It's not an attack on you 
> or your company. 
> 
> If you could find a way to bring the price down closer to the $65
dotCom frame, you'd 
> probably have a hit. How come Roger can make it for less than half
your price?
> 
> 
> --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "(i think you can figure
that out)" 
> <peter@> wrote:
> >
> > This isn't a valid argument and your prices are incorrect.
> > 
> > With the Doepfer you get a wallwart powered PSU good for 1.2 amps
and inadequate 
> crowbar protection.  You'll need 3 of these to get the same current
rating as a single Plan 
> B PSU so adding that together it's (approximately) 3 x $150 for the
Ringers $175 for the 
> Plan PSU unit which comes in a self contained aluminum enclosure
which requires no do-
> it-yourselfing.
> > 
> > So for the Plan B equivalent try $625, not $875 and with it you'll
get an OEM built 
> Condor power supply with incredible parametric stats and crowbar
protection that actually 
> works.  You plug a module in backwards with a condor you're not
going to have to return 
> it to the manufacturer for repair.
> > 
> > The bottom line, Plan B is not in a price war with Doepfer. If the
$250 or so Plan B will 
> make as profit on three Ringers and a PSU is unacceptable, then
please by all means 
> purchase the other unit.
> > 
> > - P
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In PLAN_B_analog_blog@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" <caymus91@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Oops... my math was in error. It's even worse for the Ringer
solution:
> > >
> > > $875 for the Ringer
> > > $390 for the Doepfer
> >
>

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