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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Carbon printing

2012-06-01 by Paul Roark

Hi Paul,

**
>
> ... Mark posted the h1 batch results on Aardenburg Imaging. My submission,
> #144, continues to do well... it has now hit the 100 Megalux-hours mark.
>

I think those Eboni 1800 3-MK results on Premier Art 205 (aka Epson
Scrapbook paper) are the best I've ever seen.  At 100 Mlux-hrs the average
as well as worst 10% I* Color scores are both 100.  The average I* tone is
98.7, and average delta-e is 0.2.  The worst delta-e is the paper at 0.5.
 The 50% patch delta-e is 0.1.

Your test strip was also sprayed with Premier Art Print Shield.  Sadly
there is no sample on that paper that was not sprayed, for comparison.  The
performance of the sample is certainly aided by both the paper and spray.
 The informal testing I did with that paper showed it to be the best I ever
tested.  Epson at one point also said that the Scrapbook paper was its
"most archival" (whatever that means).

The spray on the sample also makes it hard to compare to other
Aardenburg-Imaging samples.  The only Epson UltraChrome ABW samples that
are sprayed are on glossy Ilford Galerie Gold Fibre Silk.  At 90 Mlux-hrs
that sample has a 50% delta-e of 1.8.

At any rate, I think the Eboni 3-MK on sprayed Premier Art 205 (Scrapbook)
paper sets the benchmark for lightfastness in these tests are far as I can
tell.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com




>
> Danny, in case you're not familiar with this, I'm referring to a print
> longevity testing service in Western Massachusetts. See:
>
> http://www.aardenburg-imaging.com/index.html
>
> Membership is now free but I think you have to register to read the
> results.
>
> Paul, my old 1800 setup continues to hold up, but I suspect one of these
> days I'll have to move to your carbon 6 setup.
>
> Paul
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:
> >
> > dannyvanrijswijk <nightf3v3r@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
>
> > >
> > >
> > > ... Epson R3000 ... for my B&W artwork.
> > > I would love to work with Carbon inks in several shades to achieve a
> very
> > > smooth result.
> > >
> > If the best longevity is important, stay with 100% carbon. The tinted or
> > toned carbon inks are very dependent on the quality of the color inks
> added
> > to them to avoid differential fade that causes the image tone to shift.
> As
> > much as I like to save money on inks, I use HP Z3100/3200 where I want a
> > blended carbon + color (neutral) inkset, and I use Epson LC and LM inks
> > with MIS carbon where I want to have full control of the print tone. See
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/4000-6K-Plus.pdf . This last approach
> > does require QTR for control.
> >
> >
> >
> > > ... a pretty expensive investment.
> > >
> >
> > See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Carbon-6.pdf for the least
> expensive
> > 100% carbon printing approach that uses dilute inks. You can mix the
> inks,
> > buy the pre-mixed base from MIS, or buy the entire inkset pre-mixed --
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf .
> >
> > Note that these inkset can be printed with either QTR or the Epson
> driver.
> >
> > ... http://shop.farbenwerk.com/schwarzweiss-tinten/carbonprint-museum
> > >
> > Judging from the shades of the prints I see, I'd guess they are using a
> > rather standard warm carbon. All carbon pigments are warm, but the reason
> > I selected and used the ink MIS sells as "Eboni" is that, in addition to
> a
> > good dmax on matte paper, it is less warm than the other 100% carbon inks
> > on almost all matte papers.
> >
> > Good luck with your search.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
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> >
>
>  
>


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