QTR-Quadtone RIP

John:  My curve in QTR is a .qdif.  Where do I go in the software to place a point in the middle of the curve to pull it up?  I'm using a three-ink curve.  Thanks much for your time and advice.  Jim

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "john" <zonepeter@...> wrote:
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> I feel your pain.  It is so frustrating when so called "improvements"  mess up your workflow.  Seems to be an unending problem in the digital realm.  I guess it always has been an issue (I still remember my legs buckling when my local store told me Oriental Seagull was no more).  But with digital it seems to be constant. 
>  Adding a curve, I would simply place a point in the middle and pull it up a little.  It would probably be an iterative process, but I bet you would get the feel for it really fast.  I would think the effect would be similar to the brightness slider.  
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ascherjim" <ascherjim@> wrote:
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> > John:  Further thought (and query) regarding your suggestion "Otherwise, how about using a curve to brighten the file before output."  How do I do this, while retaining the values (relationships) of my present QTR curve?
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> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "john" <zonepeter@> wrote:
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> > > Is your monitor calibrated?  Even if it is it sounds like it is too bright. There are many articles online about matching monitor and print.  If you can get your monitor to reasonably your your output, you can skip the brightening step.  Otherwise, how about using a curve to brighten the file before output.  I wouldn't give up on lr4 to easily. 
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> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ascherjim" <ascherjim@> wrote:
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> > > > You've touched on the heart of my problem.  My printer prints dark.  After editing my photo in Lightroom on the monitor, I must then brighten it a certain amount to get it to print with the same density on the printer, which I then export to QTR for the actual printing.  Lightroom 3.6 has the Brightness slider as a basic control which I employ for this brightening purpose.  Lightroom 4 has moved this basic Brightness slider to its print function, thereby obviating my ability to export the brightened edit to QTR for printing. (Trust this isn't too confusing.) So, I guess if I want to continue printing with QTR I must stick with LR 3.6 -- although I agree that LR 4 has greatly improved the previous Lightroom processing. 
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> > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "john" <zonepeter@> wrote:
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> > > > > Why not just export from Lightroom 4 and print using QTR.  I have only used lightroom 4 but from what I hear, the upgrades in the raw processing alone would be worth it.  
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> > > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ascherjim" <ascherjim@> wrote:
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> > > > > > I use Windows and I suspect you're right about the incompatibility between QTR curves and Lightroom. And I'm not willing to switch to Mac to effect this (not that that's what you're in any way suggesting I do).  So, I guess I'll just continue using my Lightroom 3.6, as I don't want to give up the ease and success I've had all these years with QTR.  Many thanks, anyway. 
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> > > > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@...m, "john" <zonepeter@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Mac or windows?  On a Mac QTR is available through lightroom.   If you are on windows, QTR is stand alone.  You would not be able to print through lightroom, I don't think.  You could come up with your preferred method or printing and then make a QTR icc to fine tune it and soft proof.  Be sure to use ICCRGB for lightroom.   
> > > > > > > Do not confuse QTR curves used in QTR and QTR ICC profiles.  They are separate and not really interchangeable.
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> > > > > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ascherjim" <ascherjim@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > For several years now I have been printing through QTR my preferred B&W prints, utilizing a generic QTR curve I've modified. To try out some of the possible advantages of printing options now available in Lightroom 4, I would like to be able to convert my preferred QTR curve to an ICC format that LR 4 would recognize for printing purposes. How could I do this, without starting entirely from scratch?  Any advice would be appreciated.
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