QTR-Quadtone RIP

Chip,
I am in a similar spot. I bought the Epson 1400 to be able to print B&W from
my own scan of B&W negatives which I shoot. I thought the 1400 a much more
reasonably priced than the printers which advertise B&W as a speciality. I
too see either a horrid green or red cast when I print grey scale images. I
had a profile made. If helped very little. I did try the Eboni inks a while
back and they just dried up in the printer.
I found a way to clean and flush out the black and gray Eboni inks.
On a whim I installed the QTR rip last week and produced a very nice, very
neutral print (I used to print in a darkroom (real old school) and that is
the kind of neutral image I was looking for.)
I have not had much time to push it, so I can't tell you exactly what I did,
but the results are what I was looking for ­ with the standard 6 color Epson
inks.
I do this for myself as a hobby, and was considering spending $$$ on one of
the higher end Epsons or Canons, after my disappointment with the 1400. Now
I will use the money I didn't spend on a fancy printer for film and $$ Epson
Ink.
There is hope!
I almost get the feeling (and this is speculation) that Epson "dumbs down"
the cheaper printers to NOT be able to print neutral B&W images. The
printing resolution of the higher end printers is not that much greater ­
you need a magnifier to see the difference. It is not quite the same as a
print from traditional silver processes, but the cheap 1400 and the cheap
QTR rip are nearly there.
Best of luck.

Tom Langton

From:  chip <pinholerenner@...>
Reply-To:  Quadtone rip <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Date:  Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:08 PM
To:  Quadtone rip <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Subject:  [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Epson 1400 profiles

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> this is a new world to me.I have tried making Black & White images with my
> 1400 and they have a blue tint to it.I do not know much about profiles or
> profile tools.i had hoped to get better prints and someone sent me off in this
> direction.Is this a dead end?Is there a better way of printing & What would
> that be?I want to use my printer for color[It is outstanding on this task]&
> Black & white.Would the QTR force me to only use my printer for B&W work?Sorry
> if I am not fluent in this subject.Just a 57 year old retired telephone
> repairmen looking for guidance .Thanks for any help you can provide!
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Mike Finley  wrote:
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>> > The reason the question was asked is because the usual use of QTR is for
>> > managing the printing of monochrome images using inksets with multiple
>> > shades of grey. The 1400 only has a single black ink, and no greys in
>> > the standard epson inkset, and so would not normally be used with QTR
>> > and the standard Epson inks. The profiles provided are for specific
>> > monochrome inksets that people have used in the R1400 printer. (Most
>> > profiles are provided by users.)
>> > If you wish to use the Epson inks and so still be able to print in
>> > colour, QTR may not be the best solution.  Do you have any print
>> > profiling tools?
>> > On 17/01/2013 17:25, chip wrote:
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>>> > > It seams like someone has hijacked my question and taken my question
>>> > > off into an area I was not asking about.I am using the standard epson
>>> > > ink set marked t0796.I buy it on ebay.I hope this helps with the
>>> > > answer to my question.thanks for any help you can provide.I am sick of
>>> > > the cold toned prints my printer enjoys spitting out at me.
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> > > , Paul Roark wrote:
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>>>> > > > The QTR download includes a PDF User Guide. Start there.
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>>>> > > > I have written about some aspects of QTR in the PDFs I prepare for
>>> > > inksets
>>>> > > > that I have put together, but the exact steps you take will depend
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>>>> > > > inkset you are using. Probably the most compete section I have >>>>
written
>>>> > > > dealing with using QTR is contained at pages 11 - 17 of
>>>> > > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf, but that PDF
>>> > > deals with
>>>> > > > a different inkset than you will be using.
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>>>> > > > You need to tell people what inkset you are using before people can
make
>>>> > > > specific suggestions.
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>>>> > > > Paul
>>>> > > > www.PaulRoark.com
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>> > mike finley photography
>> > http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
>> > http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
>> > http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html
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