QTR-Quadtone RIP

Just starting out using quadrip and I noticed 2 profiles for the 1400 printer.they are marked k6 and mis.Which on do I use?

Which inkset are you using?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:24 PM, chip <pinholerenner@...> wrote:

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> Just starting out using quadrip and I noticed 2 profiles for the 1400
> printer.they are marked k6 and mis.Which on do I use?
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dear sir
i have 1 epson 7800  i want us it for make screen film blak and waiet
haw can i get rip softwaer for epson 7800
 
with best regard
hoshyar h goran












Roon Press Company
for Trading Press Machine Ltd.

hoshyar H. Goran
iraq-sulaimanya
mawlawi st 205-11 

wishyar1969@yahoo.com
http://roonpress.blogfa.com/
wishyar1969@...

www.facebook.com/roonpress
009647701522190     00964533201870

--- On Sun, 1/13/13, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:

From: Paul Roark <roark.paul@...>
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Epson 1400 profiles
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 13, 2013, 6:18 PM



  



Which inkset are you using?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 12:24 PM, chip pinholerenner@...> wrote:

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> Just starting out using quadrip and I noticed 2 profiles for the 1400
> printer.they are marked k6 and mis.Which on do I use?
>
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>

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wishyar1969 hoger <wishyar1969@...> wrote:

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> i have 1 epson 7800  i want us it for make screen film blak and waiet
> haw can i get rip softwaer for epson 7800...
>

http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html


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can you explane haw i do it step by step?











Roon Press Company
for Trading Press Machine Ltd.

hoshyar H. Goran
iraq-sulaimanya
mawlawi st 205-11 

wishyar1969@...
http://roonpress.blogfa.com/
wishyar1969@...

www.facebook.com/roonpress
009647701522190     00964533201870

--- On Mon, 1/14/13, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:

From: Paul Roark <roark.paul@...>
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Epson 1400 profiles
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 7:58 AM



  



wishyar1969 hoger wishyar1969@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> i have 1 epson 7800 i want us it for make screen film blak and waiet
> haw can i get rip softwaer for epson 7800...
>

http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html

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The QTR download includes a PDF User Guide.  Start there.

I have written about some aspects of QTR in the PDFs I prepare for inksets
that I have put together, but the exact steps you take will depend on the
inkset you are using.  Probably the most compete section I have written
dealing with using QTR is contained at pages 11 - 17 of
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf, but that PDF deals with
a different inkset than you will be using.

You need to tell people what inkset you are using before people can make
specific suggestions.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:33 AM, wishyar1969 hoger <wishyar1969@...>wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> can you explane haw i do it step by step?
>
> Roon Press Company
> for Trading Press Machine Ltd.
>
> hoshyar H. Goran
> iraq-sulaimanya
> mawlawi st 205-11
>
> wishyar1969@...
> http://roonpress.blogfa.com/
> wishyar1969@gmail.com
>
> www.facebook.com/roonpress
> 009647701522190     00964533201870
>
> --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Paul Roark roark.paul@...> wrote:
>
> From: Paul Roark roark.paul@...>
> Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Epson 1400 profiles
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 7:58 AM
>
>
>
> wishyar1969 hoger wishyar1969@...> wrote:
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> > **
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> > i have 1 epson 7800 i want us it for make screen film blak and waiet
> > haw can i get rip softwaer for epson 7800...
> >
>
> http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html
>
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I am using epson t0796 ink.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "chip"  wrote:

>
> Just starting out using quadrip and I noticed 2 profiles for the 1400 printer.they are marked k6 and mis.Which on do I use?
>

It seams like someone has hijacked my question and taken my question off into an area I was not asking about.I am using the standard epson ink set marked t0796.I buy it on ebay.I hope this helps with the answer to my question.thanks for any help you can provide.I am sick of the cold toned prints my printer enjoys spitting out at me.

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark  wrote:

>
> The QTR download includes a PDF User Guide.  Start there.
> 
> I have written about some aspects of QTR in the PDFs I prepare for inksets
> that I have put together, but the exact steps you take will depend on the
> inkset you are using.  Probably the most compete section I have written
> dealing with using QTR is contained at pages 11 - 17 of
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf, but that PDF deals with
> a different inkset than you will be using.
> 
> You need to tell people what inkset you are using before people can make
> specific suggestions.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:33 AM, wishyar1969 hoger wrote:
> 
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > can you explane haw i do it step by step?
> >
> > Roon Press Company
> > for Trading Press Machine Ltd.
> >
> > hoshyar H. Goran
> > iraq-sulaimanya
> > mawlawi st 205-11
> >
> > wishyar1969@...
> > http://roonpress.blogfa.com/
> > wishyar1969@...
> >
> > www.facebook.com/roonpress
> > 009647701522190     00964533201870
> >
> > --- On Mon, 1/14/13, Paul Roark roark.paul@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Paul Roark roark.paul@...>
> > Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Epson 1400 profiles
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 14, 2013, 7:58 AM
> >
> >
> >
> > wishyar1969 hoger wishyar1969@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > i have 1 epson 7800 i want us it for make screen film blak and waiet
> > > haw can i get rip softwaer for epson 7800...
> > >
> >
> > http://www.quadtonerip.com/html/QTRdownload.html
> >
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> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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The reason the question was asked is because the usual use of QTR is for 
managing the printing of monochrome images using inksets with multiple 
shades of grey. The 1400 only has a single black ink, and no greys in 
the standard epson inkset, and so would not normally be used with QTR 
and the standard Epson inks. The profiles provided are for specific 
monochrome inksets that people have used in the R1400 printer. (Most 
profiles are provided by users.)
If you wish to use the Epson inks and so still be able to print in 
colour, QTR may not be the best solution.  Do you have any print 
profiling tools?
On 17/01/2013 17:25, chip wrote:
>
> It seams like someone has hijacked my question and taken my question 
> off into an area I was not asking about.I am using the standard epson 
> ink set marked t0796.I buy it on ebay.I hope this helps with the 
> answer to my question.thanks for any help you can provide.I am sick of 
> the cold toned prints my printer enjoys spitting out at me.
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
> <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>, Paul Roark wrote:
> >
> > The QTR download includes a PDF User Guide. Start there.
> >
> > I have written about some aspects of QTR in the PDFs I prepare for 
> inksets
> > that I have put together, but the exact steps you take will depend 
> on the
> > inkset you are using. Probably the most compete section I have written
> > dealing with using QTR is contained at pages 11 - 17 of
> > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf, but that PDF 
> deals with
> > a different inkset than you will be using.
> >
> > You need to tell people what inkset you are using before people can make
> > specific suggestions.
> >
> > Paul
> > www.PaulRoark.com
> >
> >
>
> 

-- 
mike finley photography
http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html



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this is a new world to me.I have tried making Black & White images with my 1400 and they have a blue tint to it.I do not know much about profiles or profile tools.i had hoped to get better prints and someone sent me off in this direction.Is this a dead end?Is there a better way of printing & What would that be?I want to use my printer for color[It is outstanding on this task]& Black & white.Would the QTR force me to only use my printer for B&W work?Sorry if I am not fluent in this subject.Just a 57 year old retired telephone repairmen looking for guidance .Thanks for any help you can provide!
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Mike Finley  wrote:

>
> The reason the question was asked is because the usual use of QTR is for 
> managing the printing of monochrome images using inksets with multiple 
> shades of grey. The 1400 only has a single black ink, and no greys in 
> the standard epson inkset, and so would not normally be used with QTR 
> and the standard Epson inks. The profiles provided are for specific 
> monochrome inksets that people have used in the R1400 printer. (Most 
> profiles are provided by users.)
> If you wish to use the Epson inks and so still be able to print in 
> colour, QTR may not be the best solution.  Do you have any print 
> profiling tools?
> On 17/01/2013 17:25, chip wrote:
> >
> > It seams like someone has hijacked my question and taken my question 
> > off into an area I was not asking about.I am using the standard epson 
> > ink set marked t0796.I buy it on ebay.I hope this helps with the 
> > answer to my question.thanks for any help you can provide.I am sick of 
> > the cold toned prints my printer enjoys spitting out at me.
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com 
> > , Paul Roark wrote:
> > >
> > > The QTR download includes a PDF User Guide. Start there.
> > >
> > > I have written about some aspects of QTR in the PDFs I prepare for 
> > inksets
> > > that I have put together, but the exact steps you take will depend 
> > on the
> > > inkset you are using. Probably the most compete section I have written
> > > dealing with using QTR is contained at pages 11 - 17 of
> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf, but that PDF 
> > deals with
> > > a different inkset than you will be using.
> > >
> > > You need to tell people what inkset you are using before people can make
> > > specific suggestions.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> -- 
> mike finley photography
> http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
> http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
> http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Chip,
I am in a similar spot. I bought the Epson 1400 to be able to print B&W from
my own scan of B&W negatives which I shoot. I thought the 1400 a much more
reasonably priced than the printers which advertise B&W as a speciality. I
too see either a horrid green or red cast when I print grey scale images. I
had a profile made. If helped very little. I did try the Eboni inks a while
back and they just dried up in the printer.
I found a way to clean and flush out the black and gray Eboni inks.
On a whim I installed the QTR rip last week and produced a very nice, very
neutral print (I used to print in a darkroom (real old school) and that is
the kind of neutral image I was looking for.)
I have not had much time to push it, so I can't tell you exactly what I did,
but the results are what I was looking for ­ with the standard 6 color Epson
inks.
I do this for myself as a hobby, and was considering spending $$$ on one of
the higher end Epsons or Canons, after my disappointment with the 1400. Now
I will use the money I didn't spend on a fancy printer for film and $$ Epson
Ink.
There is hope!
I almost get the feeling (and this is speculation) that Epson "dumbs down"
the cheaper printers to NOT be able to print neutral B&W images. The
printing resolution of the higher end printers is not that much greater ­
you need a magnifier to see the difference. It is not quite the same as a
print from traditional silver processes, but the cheap 1400 and the cheap
QTR rip are nearly there.
Best of luck.

Tom Langton

From:  chip <pinholerenner@...>
Reply-To:  Quadtone rip <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Date:  Thursday, January 17, 2013 2:08 PM
To:  Quadtone rip <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Subject:  [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Epson 1400 profiles

>  
>  
>  
>    
> 
> 
> this is a new world to me.I have tried making Black & White images with my
> 1400 and they have a blue tint to it.I do not know much about profiles or
> profile tools.i had hoped to get better prints and someone sent me off in this
> direction.Is this a dead end?Is there a better way of printing & What would
> that be?I want to use my printer for color[It is outstanding on this task]&
> Black & white.Would the QTR force me to only use my printer for B&W work?Sorry
> if I am not fluent in this subject.Just a 57 year old retired telephone
> repairmen looking for guidance .Thanks for any help you can provide!
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> Mike Finley  wrote:
>> >
>> > The reason the question was asked is because the usual use of QTR is for
>> > managing the printing of monochrome images using inksets with multiple
>> > shades of grey. The 1400 only has a single black ink, and no greys in
>> > the standard epson inkset, and so would not normally be used with QTR
>> > and the standard Epson inks. The profiles provided are for specific
>> > monochrome inksets that people have used in the R1400 printer. (Most
>> > profiles are provided by users.)
>> > If you wish to use the Epson inks and so still be able to print in
>> > colour, QTR may not be the best solution.  Do you have any print
>> > profiling tools?
>> > On 17/01/2013 17:25, chip wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > It seams like someone has hijacked my question and taken my question
>>> > > off into an area I was not asking about.I am using the standard epson
>>> > > ink set marked t0796.I buy it on ebay.I hope this helps with the
>>> > > answer to my question.thanks for any help you can provide.I am sick of
>>> > > the cold toned prints my printer enjoys spitting out at me.
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
>>> <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> > > , Paul Roark wrote:
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > The QTR download includes a PDF User Guide. Start there.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > I have written about some aspects of QTR in the PDFs I prepare for
>>> > > inksets
>>>> > > > that I have put together, but the exact steps you take will depend
>>> > > on the
>>>> > > > inkset you are using. Probably the most compete section I have >>>>
written
>>>> > > > dealing with using QTR is contained at pages 11 - 17 of
>>>> > > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf, but that PDF
>>> > > deals with
>>>> > > > a different inkset than you will be using.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > You need to tell people what inkset you are using before people can
make
>>>> > > > specific suggestions.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Paul
>>>> > > > www.PaulRoark.com
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > 
>> > 
>> > -- 
>> > mike finley photography
>> > http://www.mikefinley.co.uk
>> > http://words.mikefinley.co.uk
>> > http://www.roguegenegallery.com/Mike_Finley-gallery.html
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
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chip <pinholerenner@...> wrote:

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> ... I have tried making Black & White images with my 1400 and they have a
> blue tint to it....
>

My write-up/PDF on using the 1400 with standard color Claria inks (Black #
T079120<http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&sku=T079120>)
is at
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-BW.pdf

The best profile I have made uses not just the black ink but also the light
color inks to make the print smoother and a more appropriate tone.  The PDF
links to a Zip file with profiles.

"Claria-BO-RR-ArcPolSat-HalfColor" is the name of one that uses the color
inks for half of the grays and black for the other half.  This compromise
between color and black only is smooth enough for most images.  The color
constancy and metamerism are acceptable for most uses if a really good
carbon pigment based B&W image is nearby to compare to.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com


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