QTR-Quadtone RIP

Sergei,
I would like to believe that the problem lies with me, rather than the
K7 inks. I really want to like these inks. I don't think the problem
lies with QTR. I'm really impressed with that piece of software. I
also think the fact that Jon was willing to hang is reputation on a
$50 piece of shareware that he didn't write says volumes about the
quality of QTR.

Maybe I'm just a Neanderthal who likes more contrast in his prints
than the experts. I will say, however, that with high key images, K7
looks pretty good to me. It really comes into it's own with the
lightest shades of gray. So, I'll keep trying.

I suppose I could add a curves layer and crank up the contrast. The
problem with that is that I really like the way the image looks on the
monitor (calibrated and profiled) without extra contrast. So, adding
extra contrast means you're sort of flying blind until you check the
print. 

As for the cost compared to the MIS inks, it looks to me like the K7
carts would be a piece of cake to refill. Buy a syringe, needle,
bottom feed adapter and chip reseter from MIS and you should be good
to go. I'm just not willing to experiment with that until I get better
results from the K7 inks. 

Has anyone tried refilling the K7 carts yet? 

Charlie


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "santonov2you"
<antonovsergei@h...> wrote:
>
> Charlie,
> 
> It is interesting to read about your experience with k7 after Jon 
> Cone's statements about how much more advanced are his curves. It is 
> not the first careful negative response on k7 about DMax that I see. 
> Is it about using k7 with QTR or in their environment? I am trying 
> to understand how much of Cone's declarations is just a plain 
> commercial bluff. After all he should be quite aggressive to sell 
> his inks that are more than twice more expensive than MIS inks are.
> 
> --Sergei
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "cvdunton" <cvdunton@v...> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > I thought I knew at least a little something about monochrome
> > printing, but appearently not. At least not where the K7 inks are
> > concerned. Others have raved about them, but at this point, I'm a 
> bit
> > disappointed. I'll grant you they are wonderfully smooth, and 
> totally
> > dotless, at least to my eyes under 2x magnification, but for me, 
> the
> > translation from monitor to paper appears really flat. The Dmax 
> looks
> > disappointly low but I don't have a densitometer, so it's all
> > emperical at this point.
> > 
> > BUT, others have written glowing reports. And that's what led me to
> > this group. I'm hoping that I can figure out what is causing me to 
> get
> > results that I'm getting.
> > 
> > At the moment, I'm getting much better results using the latest
> > version of QTR with my R2400 and the K3 inks.
> > 
> > Charlie
>