QTR-Quadtone RIP

Well said. I agree.



Paul



From: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of "'forums@...' forums@... [QuadtoneRIP]" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Reply-To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 8:21 AM
To: "QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com" <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Color Print Options in Print Tool





In response to the last comment,

There is long industry standard nomenclature for this going back almost 2 decades now (in all output inkjet printing).

1. Application Managed (aka Print-Tool managed)
2. No Color Management
3. Printer Manages Colors (or Print Driver Managed, etc, etc).

Changing these from the norm will confuse people even more. It was damaging enough when Mac/Adobe decided to get rid of “No Color Management.” The reason for the very existence of Print-Tool is to get that feature back. PT is not just for QTR either. It’s seperate.

Also,

Choosing a profile (Print-Tool Managed) effects the output by converting to the profile chosen. If you choose something like AdobeRGB as your output profile it may not be different output than the other options, but most profiles WILL change the output. Please do not assume that somehow this option does not work. It does and has since the beginning.

Best,
Walker

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Myron Gochnauer goch@... [QuadtoneRIP] <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>> I did a quick check of the difference in the output for my all gray ink printer and found no difference in the ink densities (as measured using a UV transmission densitometer). I'll also ran a check using the Quad3880 UC printer, no difference in the ink densities.
>> So, no difference in the negative densities for my printing processes.
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> That is consistent with my 'sense' of what happens for me as well, but I can't remember testing it.
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> If this bears up to your further tests (I expect it will), perhaps you/we should suggest that Print-Tool be modified to eliminate the confusion we've had.
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> I don't know what is 'under the hood' of Print-Tool, but it would seem to be a pretty simple thing to add afourth option to the Print Color Management list: QuadToneRIP printing (or something like that). It could be a dummy choice, simply being another way of choosing "No Color Management".
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> Having a "QuadToneRIP printing" choice would provide an unambiguously correct choice for QTR printers/printing (even though it would not be the only workable choice). It wouldn't matter that it was essentially identical in result to other choices, since the point would be certainty for the user.
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> As the menus currently appear, I remain convinced that the availability of "Print-Tool Managed" implies that the chosen ICC profile will be applied to the image file, whatever the printer might do (or not do). Your tests are showing that this implication is false. ...and false implications just generate needless confusion for users.
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> Myron
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