If I may interject.. I'm not using Piezography B&W inks, but MIS UT-2, and while BETA testing the the CRANE SILVER RAG, there is NO problem with the ink penetrating the paper, however there is some gloss differential, easily "leveled" with 2 very light coats of PREMIER ART SHIELD.. The results have been outstanding, IMHO, and better than anything I was ever able to do in my "WET" darkroom.. Just my 2 cents.. Eddie Wiseman ----- Original Message ----- From: "nemoniemann" <nemophoto@...> To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:17 PM Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Crane Museo Silver Rag - Measurements > Nathan, > > I'm not sure a spray fixative would do the trick or not. Part of the > "problem" is that Piezography inks just don't sink into the substrate > of glossy-type papers. Since the inks are just "sitting there", I'm > not sure a spray would fix that, and instead, might actually > exacerbate the problem. I tried sprays years ago for other prints and > never really cared for them, but someone else might have a different > take on it. > > Nemo > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Cox, Nathan" <nathan.cox@...> wrote: > > > > Nemo, > > Do you think a spray fixative such as Printshield would solve the > > smudging and potential gloss differential problems (if they exist)? > > Thank you, > > Nathan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of nemoniemann > > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:26 AM > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Crane Museo Silver Rag - Measurements > > > > I was a beta tester here in the states. I found the paper pretty > > amazing. It can take a fairly heavy ink load. I actually found I had the > > deepest blacks of any paper with Piezography inks. Unfortunately, those > > inks don't work well with semi-gloss papers. Two days later, the inks > > still smudged. I was going to reprint a portfolio using the paper, but, > > alas, the test roll of 17" wide was defective. It was one of their > > "junk" rolls, missing a coating, and wasn't suppose to be sent out. So, > > like everyone else, I sit here waiting. . . > > > > Nemo > > > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dj_joy_uk" <yahoo@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I know a lot of you are as interested in this new paper as I am, given > > > > > all the hype surrounding it at the moment. > > > > > > I went to the UK "Focus On Imaging" show on Sunday ( UK version of PMA > > > ) and happened across a UK importer of this new paper. They haven't > > > got any yet ( apparently nobody has, it's not shipping quite yet ), > > > but the very nice lady on the stand let me have a few trial sheets of > > > 8.5"x11" to play with. I've 4 sheets, two of which I will use to make > > > a QTR curve of sorts, and the other two to print images on to get a > > > feel for the media. > > > > > > I'm fortunate enough to own a Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Spectro, so I've > > > started making up a curve for this new paper on my Epson 4000, and I > > > thought I'd share the spectro measurements. I'm not finished yet! I've > > > > > printed off the first 100% ink limit sheet and measured it, the data > > > from which is posted here. These densitometer readings are measured > > > relative to the paper white, rather than absolute white, which I'd > > > view as the best way to measure these. The measurements were very > > > consistent, and repeatable, probably the most reliable media I've yet > > > measured. Hopefully some of you will find these useful. > > > > > > 0 0.00 > > > 5 0.31 > > > 10 0.57 > > > 15 0.85 > > > 20 1.10 > > > 25 1.33 > > > 30 1.48 > > > 35 1.67 > > > 40 1.78 > > > 45 1.89 > > > 50 1.96 > > > 55 2.02 > > > 60 2.07 > > > 65 2.07 > > > 70 2.12 > > > 75 2.13 > > > 80 2.18 > > > 85 2.18 > > > 90 2.16 > > > 95 2.03 > > > 100 1.85 > > > > > > This suggests to me the ink blocks out at 60% on this media, so I've > > > printed the second calibration sheet with the ink limit set to 60%, > > > and that is drying as I type, and I'll share the results of that when > > > I get home tonight and measure it. > > > > > > I'm quite impressed with the gamut of this paper, given it's > > > Matte(ish) nature, and I think a good range of B&W tones will be > > > available on this media. > > > > > > I'm looking forward to printing an image on it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Crane Museo Silver Rag - Measurements
2006-03-07 by Edward Wiseman
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