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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Crane Museo Silver Rag - Measurements

2006-03-07 by Edward Wiseman

If I may interject..

I'm not using Piezography B&W inks, but MIS UT-2, and while BETA testing the
the CRANE SILVER RAG, there is NO problem with the ink penetrating the
paper, however there is some gloss differential, easily "leveled" with 2
very light coats of  PREMIER ART SHIELD..
The results have been outstanding, IMHO, and better than anything I was ever
able to do in my "WET" darkroom..

Just my 2 cents..

Eddie Wiseman

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "nemoniemann" <nemophoto@...>
To: <QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:17 PM
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Crane Museo Silver Rag - Measurements


> Nathan,
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> I'm not sure a spray fixative would do the trick or not. Part of the
> "problem" is that Piezography inks just don't sink into the substrate
> of glossy-type papers. Since the inks are just "sitting there", I'm
> not sure a spray would fix that, and instead, might actually
> exacerbate the problem. I tried sprays years ago for other prints and
> never really cared for them, but someone else might have a different
> take on it.
>
> Nemo
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Cox, Nathan" <nathan.cox@...> wrote:
> >
> > Nemo,
> > Do you think a spray fixative such as Printshield would solve the
> > smudging and potential gloss differential problems (if they exist)?
> > Thank you,
> > Nathan
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of nemoniemann
> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:26 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Crane Museo Silver Rag - Measurements
> >
> > I was a beta tester here in the states. I found the paper pretty
> > amazing. It can take a fairly heavy ink load. I actually found I had the
> > deepest blacks of any paper with Piezography inks. Unfortunately, those
> > inks don't work well with semi-gloss papers. Two days later, the inks
> > still smudged. I was going to reprint a portfolio using the paper, but,
> > alas, the test roll of 17" wide was defective. It was one of their
> > "junk" rolls, missing a coating, and wasn't suppose to be sent out. So,
> > like everyone else, I sit here waiting. . .
> >
> > Nemo
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "dj_joy_uk" <yahoo@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I know a lot of you are as interested in this new paper as I am, given
> >
> > > all the hype surrounding it at the moment.
> > >
> > > I went to the UK "Focus On Imaging" show on Sunday ( UK version of PMA
> > > ) and happened across a UK importer of this new paper. They haven't
> > > got any yet ( apparently nobody has, it's not shipping quite yet ),
> > > but the very nice lady on the stand let me have a few trial sheets of
> > > 8.5"x11" to play with. I've 4 sheets, two of which I will use to make
> > > a QTR curve of sorts, and the other two to print images on to get a
> > > feel for the media.
> > >
> > > I'm fortunate enough to own a Gretag Macbeth Eye-One Spectro, so I've
> > > started making up a curve for this new paper on my Epson 4000, and I
> > > thought I'd share the spectro measurements. I'm not finished yet! I've
> >
> > > printed off the first 100% ink limit sheet and measured it, the data
> > > from which is posted here. These densitometer readings are measured
> > > relative to the paper white, rather than absolute white, which I'd
> > > view as the best way to measure these. The measurements were very
> > > consistent, and repeatable, probably the most reliable media I've yet
> > > measured. Hopefully some of you will find these useful.
> > >
> > > 0               0.00
> > > 5               0.31
> > > 10              0.57
> > > 15              0.85
> > > 20              1.10
> > > 25              1.33
> > > 30              1.48
> > > 35              1.67
> > > 40              1.78
> > > 45              1.89
> > > 50              1.96
> > > 55              2.02
> > > 60              2.07
> > > 65              2.07
> > > 70              2.12
> > > 75              2.13
> > > 80              2.18
> > > 85              2.18
> > > 90              2.16
> > > 95              2.03
> > > 100             1.85
> > >
> > > This suggests to me the ink blocks out at 60% on this media, so I've
> > > printed the second calibration sheet with the ink limit set to 60%,
> > > and that is drying as I type, and I'll share the results of that when
> > > I get home tonight and measure it.
> > >
> > > I'm quite impressed with the gamut of this paper, given it's
> > > Matte(ish) nature, and I think a good range of B&W tones will be
> > > available on this media.
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward to printing an image on it.
> > >
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