QTR-Quadtone RIP

Thank you for your helpful critique. Nonetheless, confusion still reigns at
my computer after almost 40 years of darkroom B/W printing. I obtained the
HANptorag printer profile from Inkjetmall in Vermont, installed it, used the
Epson 2200 and under  paper type picked Enhanced matte.  It's my first dry
B/W  and the result was (not spectacular) surprisingly good. Did I
accidentally do something right? I certainly appreciate your generous gift
of your time. Joachim
  -----Original Message-----
  From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of Tom Moore
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 2:38 PM
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hahnemuhle profiles


  Ifotogu and Joachim



  The profiles from Inkjet Mall in Vermont (which is what I think you are
referencing) are not for use with QTR. They are used for regular colour
printing. They should be installed in the regular Windows or Mac folder for
ICC printer profiles. The files used for B&W printing with QTR are more
correctly called Curves. Although they perform a similar function to ICC
profiles (like those from Inkjet Mall), they are quite different in their
details and not interchangeable.



  Unfortunately, many people (myself included) refer to Curves as profiles
(which they are in a general sense, but just not ICC Profiles). That leads
to some confusion.



  There are no Curves for HPR and UC ink in the current QTR distribution
(that I can find). Most HPR users seem to use one of the B&W specialty inks.



  If you have tried the Epson Enhanced Matte Curve and are not happy with
that, you could try using that Curve again (with Matte ink) and adjusting
the Gamma or Shadow settings. Gamma changes have a dramatic effect so only
small changes will be required. You will have to experiment. Shadow is not
so sensitive. In both cases larger numbers mean lighter prints, if I recall
correctly.



  A more complex approach would be to create an ICC profile for the profile
you decide to use using the QTR_Create_ICC utility that comes with QTR. That
requires a densitometer or scanner. Paul Roark has a web page describing how
to do this with a flatbed scanner. It's here:

                          http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/Making_B-W_ICCs.htm



  Finally, of course, you could create a curve yourself and then share it
with the community.



  Tom Moore








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  From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of ifotogu@...
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:50 PM
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hahnemuhle profiles



  Thanks for the info...

  How does it work? I guess you just install this with the other profiles in
the QTR? -- Robert


  -----Original Message-----
  From: joachim oppenheimer <joachim2@...>
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tue, 9 May 2006 12:46:27 -0400
  Subject: RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hahnemuhle profiles

  I purchased a profile for the 2000 Hahnemule fotorag from Inkjetlab in
Vermont for $25.00 - Joachim
  [joachim oppenheimer]  From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ifotogu@...
  Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:52 AM
  To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: koloshor@...
  Subject: Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hahnemuhle profiles

    Thanks for your response.



    I am using the Epson 2200. I checked last night, and I still could not
find the profiles for the Hahnemuhle papers.



    Robert


    -----Original Message-----
    From: koloshor <koloshor@...>
    To: Quadtone
    [joachim oppenheimer]  RIP@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tue, 9 May 2006 15:43:38 -0000
    Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Hahnemuhle profiles

    --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "scribedc" <ifotogu@...> wrote:

    >

    > I am trying to print on Hahnemuhle with the Quadtone RIP. I am getting

    > very dark results.

    >

    > There does not appear to be a specific profile for the paper. I was

    > wondering what others are using for the profile.

    >

    > I have tried with Entrada and Epson profiles. Other suggestions?



    Robert and Steve,



    Not all papers are profiled for all printers or inks. I'm betting

    Steve is using something common, like a 2200, where dang near every

    paper out there is profiled.



    Robert, what printer are you using?











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