QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for helping on this. Due to the relative lateness of the hour I don't think I explained it all very clearly. Let me try to use the QTR terms.
My problems appear to stem from the fact that from the first moment I opened the software, I was prompted to select a printer. I have two connected so naturally I opted for the one on my system for B&W. This in itself caused a program error which persists - access code violation. I guessed this was due to the use of the & (ampersand?) in the printer name. I've since renamed it but the error persists in slightly different form.
Having selected the printer I was further prompted to select the inks. On the basis of the fact that I would be creating a new Ink and Paper combo. I felt this was not a critical step so I chose K6.
After your earlier reply the penny dropped slightly so I selected the inkseparation6.tiff from the bin folder. This is the correct ink set up for my printer. I loaded this into the RIP under the current printer Model but when I selected Calibration Mode several things happened: Firstly, after initiating the several .exes quadtoprinter; Rawprint etc, the program returned a simple error message: I/O error. Although it continued to print - the software simply defaulted to printing the calibration test sheet for the model loaded - in this case the K6 ink set - which as stated has eight ink channels. I don't think this is useful because even if I disregard the two unused channels, last night's print out shows just the black ink channel reaches its limit at 30%. This is not true for the other five inks.
I'm going to reinstall this software - thereby hopefully overwriting this installation and resetting my starting point (I cannot discover how to actually reload a 'new' printer model. I seem to be stuck with this erroneous first choice).
As I say - I know it's new software and there is a learning curve attached but it does seem to be slightly less than completely user friendly. Trust me - I've read everything twice by now :0)
Alan

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  Alan Ansell
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----- Original message -----
From: "Daniel" <dchow1961@...>
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:34:12 -0000
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Newbie help: Create New Ink/Paper profile in QuadtoneRIP

since you're creating your own curves, then the first thing is to print the Ink Seperation
Test Page. which you're trying to do. if you have not yet gotten to the user guide, please
go to page 11 "Creating and Editing Curves with QuadToneRIP".
when you've printed this test page, let it dry for about an hour or more. visually estimate
the ink limit of the K ink only. i know the guide suggests otherwise, but K ink is all you
need to estimate. if you can visually indentify the ink patch that's in between the lighter
and the darker, then that's the ink limit. you don't need to be precise here.
i use QTR on a mac so the procedure is somewhat different. i suggest you read the
"Creating and Editing Curves with QuadToneRIP".
the goal here is to identify the ink limit so that you can print the Ink Seperation Test Page
again based on this ink limit. let this print dry for somewhere between 2 and 4 hours
before doing any measurements. this is the stage where you will need your spectrometer.
i have made a file for myself to help me identify the ink limit but i'm not sure how QTRgui
prints. in QTR for the mac, i print this file by selecting calibration mode. this file is located
here: [1]http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/files/Tools/
Ink_Limit_Pattern_Page.zip
i hope this answers your question.
daniel
--- In [2]QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ansell" <aansell@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Thanks for that.
>
> I'm using an Epson 1290.
>
> I've literally only bought the RIP tonight so it's fully up to date. I am attempting to use
the QTRgui and I'm currently reading the gui help files and all the other documentation
you list.
>
> I will be using the spectrometer from the PrintFix Pro kit (when it arrives). I'm not exactly
chomping at the bit to print right now - but I want to have a thorough read through of
documentation before I start printing out using this ink set - since mistakes can prove
costly at this stage.
>
> I feel that even with the information provided it seems to assume a level of familiarity
with the software that I obviously don't have.
>
> What I did was to open the QTR gui and selected one of the inbuilt 'sets' for printer and
ink because obviously my particular ink/paper combination isn't listed. So I picked the
Quad1290-K6. Of course when I printed out the Ink limit test, the inks came out listed for
that set - (of course). So although I now have a page with six ink level tests printed on it,
saving this later on seems irrelevant since the names don't match - and it was designed
for eight inks.
>
> If I'm doing something fundamentally wrong, then that's fine - but it's a case of not
really knowing how/where to start.
>
> Alan


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