--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ansell" <aansell@...> wrote:
>Hi Alan,
Glad I could give some encouragement, if not actual help. Keep us
informed of your progress, and contact me directly if you think it
may help.
Roger
>
> Hi Roger,
> Aah - I'm not the only one! I was beginning to think I was on
something of a fool's quest :0)
> Actually the SG were recommended over the quad black by my reseller
as giving better prints for the 1290.
> But I think you can help me. Although on about the fourth reading
the documentation is slowly starting to make sense, what I'm trying
to work out is what you've presumably already achieved: Namely that
of creating a complete printer and paper model for these inks. Since
they're not listed by default, I'm having trouble understanding how I
do this.
> At the moment your suggestions re curves are a bit ahead of where
I'm at right now. I'm still trying to get the software configured to
my liking.
> I've printed an ink separation sheet and set an ink limit. As soon
as I get my spectrometer plugged in I'll be able to start measuring.
> As I understand the SG set, indeed it contains no true greys. I
believe it was designed to use what are effectively highly diluted
CYM with LC LM inks which when mixed, will produce close to neutral
greys.
> Thing is - at this moment in time, I'm not able to experiment
because I'm still struggling to understand what I do with the
information derived from the ink limit testing. Into which profile
does this information go - I presume I have to create this
profile/printer data?
> Once I'm up and running and have got something that looks like a
known image, I'll be more than happy to share any discoveries on here.
>
> --
> Alan Ansell
> aansell@...
>
> ----- Original message -----
> From: "burnandodge" <roger@...>
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:33:19 -0000
> Subject: {SPAM 04.2} [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Newbie help: Create New
Ink/Paper profile in QuadtoneRIP
>
> Hi Alan,
> I'm not expert enough to give you a definitive answer, but as
another
> Lyson user I thought I would add my little bit. I don't often see
> the "L-word" mentioned in this group!
> I am using the Lyson Quad Black neutral, not the Small Gamut set and
> I believe they will be very different in QTR. I was having problems
> getting decent prints with the QB set until I discovered QTR - now I
> can print on glossy paper and easily achieve a Dmax greater than 2
> without losing shadow detail. Even on matt (fine art) paper I can
get
> a really good black, so I'm very pleased with the Lyson ink set now.
> It seems to me though that the SG set will be completely different
in
> that you only have one true "grey" - that is the black ink. To keep
> the tone (chromaticity) consistent across the full density range you
> would have to use at least one of the "grey" inks at all densities.
> As I understand QTR this would only happen if you called the grey
ink
> a "toner". Or am I missing the point?
> I was considering changing to the SG set before QTR solved my
> problems with the QB, and then I was struggling to see how QTR would
> handle the SG. I guessed that you would have to generate three
> separate curves, one for each "toner" and then combine then in
> different proportions at the print stage to get the tone you want.
> Can one of the real experts help? I would still like to try the SG
> set if it can compete with my Quad Black.
> Roger
> --- In [1]QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ansell" <aansell@>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > Thanks for helping on this. Due to the relative lateness of the
> hour I don't think I explained it all very clearly. Let me try to
use
> the QTR terms.
> > My problems appear to stem from the fact that from the first
moment
> I opened the software, I was prompted to select a printer. I have
two
> connected so naturally I opted for the one on my system for B&W.
This
> in itself caused a program error which persists - access code
> violation. I guessed this was due to the use of the & (ampersand?)
in
> the printer name. I've since renamed it but the error persists in
> slightly different form.
> > Having selected the printer I was further prompted to select the
> inks. On the basis of the fact that I would be creating a new Ink
and
> Paper combo. I felt this was not a critical step so I chose K6.
> > After your earlier reply the penny dropped slightly so I selected
> the inkseparation6.tiff from the bin folder. This is the correct ink
> set up for my printer. I loaded this into the RIP under the current
> printer Model but when I selected Calibration Mode several things
> happened: Firstly, after initiating the several .exes quadtoprinter;
> Rawprint etc, the program returned a simple error message: I/O
error.
> Although it continued to print - the software simply defaulted to
> printing the calibration test sheet for the model loaded - in this
> case the K6 ink set - which as stated has eight ink channels. I
don't
> think this is useful because even if I disregard the two unused
> channels, last night's print out shows just the black ink channel
> reaches its limit at 30%. This is not true for the other five inks.
> > I'm going to reinstall this software - thereby hopefully
> overwriting this installation and resetting my starting point (I
> cannot discover how to actually reload a 'new' printer model. I seem
> to be stuck with this erroneous first choice).
> > As I say - I know it's new software and there is a learning curve
> attached but it does seem to be slightly less than completely user
> friendly. Trust me - I've read everything twice by now :0)
> > Alan
> >
> > --
> > Alan Ansell
> > aansell@
> >
> > ----- Original message -----
> > From: "Daniel" <dchow1961@>
> > To: [2]QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:34:12 -0000
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Newbie help: Create New Ink/Paper
> profile in QuadtoneRIP
> >
> > since you're creating your own curves, then the first thing is to
> print the Ink Seperation
> > Test Page. which you're trying to do. if you have not yet gotten
to
> the user guide, please
> > go to page 11 "Creating and Editing Curves with QuadToneRIP".
> > when you've printed this test page, let it dry for about an hour
or
> more. visually estimate
> > the ink limit of the K ink only. i know the guide suggests
> otherwise, but K ink is all you
> > need to estimate. if you can visually indentify the ink patch
> that's in between the lighter
> > and the darker, then that's the ink limit. you don't need to be
> precise here.
> > i use QTR on a mac so the procedure is somewhat different. i
> suggest you read the
> > "Creating and Editing Curves with QuadToneRIP".
> > the goal here is to identify the ink limit so that you can print
> the Ink Seperation Test Page
> > again based on this ink limit. let this print dry for somewhere
> between 2 and 4 hours
> > before doing any measurements. this is the stage where you will
> need your spectrometer.
> > i have made a file for myself to help me identify the ink limit
but
> i'm not sure how QTRgui
> > prints. in QTR for the mac, i print this file by selecting
> calibration mode. this file is located
> > here: [1][3]
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/files/Tools/
> > Ink_Limit_Pattern_Page.zip
> > i hope this answers your question.
> > daniel
> > --- In [2][4]QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Ansell" <aansell@>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Daniel,
> > >
> > > Thanks for that.
> > >
> > > I'm using an Epson 1290.
> > >
> > > I've literally only bought the RIP tonight so it's fully up to
> date. I am attempting to use
> > the QTRgui and I'm currently reading the gui help files and all
the
> other documentation
> > you list.
> > >
> > > I will be using the spectrometer from the PrintFix Pro kit (when
> it arrives). I'm not exactly
> > chomping at the bit to print right now - but I want to have a
> thorough read through of
> > documentation before I start printing out using this ink set -
> since mistakes can prove
> > costly at this stage.
> > >
> > > I feel that even with the information provided it seems to
assume
> a level of familiarity
> > with the software that I obviously don't have.
> > >
> > > What I did was to open the QTR gui and selected one of the
> inbuilt 'sets' for printer and
> > ink because obviously my particular ink/paper combination isn't
> listed. So I picked the
> > Quad1290-K6. Of course when I printed out the Ink limit test, the
> inks came out listed for
> > that set - (of course). So although I now have a page with six ink
> level tests printed on it,
> > saving this later on seems irrelevant since the names don't
match -
> and it was designed
> > for eight inks.
> > >
> > > If I'm doing something fundamentally wrong, then that's fine -
> but it's a case of not
> > really knowing how/where to start.
> > >
> > > Alan
> >
> >
> > References
> >
> > 1. [5]http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/files/Tools/
> > 2. mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com
> > 3.
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> > 20. mailto:[23]QuadtoneRIP-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=
> > 21.
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> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com
> 2. mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com
> 3. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/QuadtoneRIP/files/Tools/
> 4. mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com
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> 7.
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> 8.
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> 9.
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> 20. mailto:QuadtoneRIP-traditional%40yahoogroups.com
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