QTR-Quadtone RIP

Jim,

It sounds all correct.

Ideas I have:
Bad paper, printing on back of paper, incorrect ICC profile selected
in Print with Preview or printing softproof.  Using Calib mode for real prints.

Try a new paper and check all the settings, twice.  Maybe you have a Preset
that's been corrupted.

Roy


On 3/31/07, Jim <joffbroadway@...> wrote:
> Roy,
>
> My carts are from Dec of 05 and have only very
> mysterious labels on them that took a lot of work with
> IJM to figure out. Slot 1 is K and is cart 1, slot 2
> is C and is cart 2, slot 3 is M and it is cart 5, slot
> 4 is LC and it is cart 3, slot 5 is LM and it is cart
> 6, and finaly slot 6 is Y and it is cart 4. The
> positions have not changed since I made some wonderful
> prints.
>
> On the pattern page printout, k is darkest followed by
> c,lc,y,m and lm--just like you said.
>
> My prints have almost no contrast at all and have a
> very poor D-max and appear almost posteriorized.
>
> I have tried new and old files using 2.5 and 2.3 and
> HPR and Inova Soft and both sides of the paper and
> gamma 2.2 and 1.8 and having both the printer and
> photoshop contol color and QTR matte paper setting and
> gamma 2.2.
>
> There is something really wrong. I have been a pro for
> 43 years and all digital for 6 and using some type of
> IJM ink in three different printers for 5 years.  If
> this is user error, I will actually be happy!
>
> Now where do I go?
>
> Jim
>
> --- Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
>
> > Well you should see 6 distinctly different
> > densities:
> > Ink carts are labeled #1,2,3,4,5,6   darkest to
> > lightest.
> > They should be in K, C, LC, Y, M, LM order darkest
> > to lightest.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Saturday, March 31, 2007, at 08:48  AM, Jim
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > I have not changed inks.
> > >
> > > I printed out the Pattern Page.  I used no color
> > > management, Calibration mode, no curves selected,
> > > 60/40 blend and all other stuff in 0 or default.
> > On
> > > Innova Soft Texture, I printed it out.
> > >
> > > I have 6 step wedges and one blank for light
> > black.
> > > What am I supposed to do now?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Jim,
> > >>
> > >> Nothing has changed for the 7500 and the K6
> > profiles
> > >> since they first
> > >> came out.
> > >> If the inks are all firing then I'd assume it's
> > the
> > >> wrong inks.   Did
> > >> you put new
> > >> carts in awhile ago?  It takes many prints for
> > new
> > >> ink to show.
> > >>
> > >> Print out the inkseparation.tif file in
> > Calibration
> > >> Mode and see the
> > >> density of the
> > >> inks and whether they are correct.
> > >>
> > >> Roy
> > >>
> > >> On Saturday, March 31, 2007, at 06:22  AM, Jim
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Mark,
> > >>>
> > >>> I just re-installed 2.3.4 version, and the
> > prints
> > >> are
> > >>> the same.  I took all the other versions off
> > with
> > >> QTR
> > >>> remove software and removed all 7500 printers
> > from
> > >> my
> > >>> list in system preferences.  No go.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --- Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I assume you have done the usual checks on the
> > >>>> printer, nozzle, shake
> > >>>> carts, alignment, etc..? Did this instantly
> > >> happen
> > >>>> when you changed
> > >>>> the software?
> > >>>> Mark
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Mar 31, 2007, at 7:49 AM, joffbroadway
> > wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have been using K6 on my Epson 7500 with OSX
> > >> 10.4.9
> > >>>>> successfully for about 15 months. Now, with
> > QTR
> > >> 2.5.0,
> > >>>>> it looks like all my tones from 55 to about 90
> > >>>> percent
> > >>>>> are the same--that posteriorized look.  It
> > looks
> > >>>> like
> > >>>>> all my carts have been switched around by some
> > >>>> evil
> > >>>>> demon.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If, just for the sake of argument, we assume I
> > >> am
> > >>>> not
> > >>>>> an idiot and know how to profile and set
> > things
> > >> up
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>> "print with preview" and in the QRT interface,
> > >>>> could
> > >>>>> the RIP itself have changed in such a way as
> > to
> > >>>> demand
> > >>>>> a different line-up of carts?  I will answer
> > all
> > >>>>> follow up questions in detail regarding my set
> > >> up
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>> settings, I just want to know now if anyone is
> > >>>> having
> > >>>>> the same problem now or knows if the cart
> > >>>> positions
> > >>>>> have changed in the RIP itself.  thanks.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Jim
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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> > >>>>>
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