QTR-Quadtone RIP

That's likely the problem then.  Assign just throws away the old profile
so all the values defined by the old profile are no longer there.   If 
you
looked at the screen when you did this you probably saw the image 
change.

Use Convert to Profile and you should get better results.

Roy

On Wednesday, May 9, 2007, at 06:53  PM, nevillelestrange wrote:

> Hi Roy, We are converting the file in photoshop by using 'Assign 
> Profile'.
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> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
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>> I don't have anything to do with the inks themselves so its hard for 
>> me
>> to comment
>> on them.  If you can get "half decent" results by editing maybe its a
>> matter of what
>> embedded profile you are using in your datafile.   It doesn't sound
>> like a simple
>> "ink doesn't get onto the paper" problem.   I imagine you aren't using
>> color
>> management in either ABW-UC or QTR-K7 so the fact that things are
>> different is
>> not too unusual.   Two methods are usually different and if you
>> optimized a file
>> for one it'll be worse on the other.
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>> What embedded profile is in the original file?  Are you changing it to
>> gamma 2.2?
>> How?  Assign Profile or Convert to Profile?
>>
>> Roy
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 9, 2007, at 03:24  PM, nevillelestrange wrote:
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>>> I have contacted Roy Harrington and Cone Editions but I have not had
>>> any luck, the inks
>>> are very disappointing, I was getting better results using the
>>> Ultrachrome inks....What
>>> now....?
>>> They claim this is a plug and play system, doesn't seem that way. I
>>> agree that resolution
>>> and smoothness are amazing but the midtones look awful and flat 
>>> unless
>>> you bump the
>>> image over the top in photoshop and then you start to get half decent
>>> results...
>>>
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>>> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "silviapestalozzicolor"
>>> <airplaygraphics@>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Same here, installed the K7 inkset on a 9600 three days ago. Quite
>>>> dissapointing image dynamics and dmax. It all looks rather flat and
>>>> liveless when compared to an ABW print of the same image, although
>>>> resolution and smoothness are outstanding under a loupe. Immediately
>>>> after printing i get a 1.38, six hours later the same print measures
>>>> at 1.52 with a Techcon RT-112 on PhotoRag Bright White. About the 
>>>> same
>>>> on Innova Smooth Cotton. For comparison i have here a K7 promo 
>>>> sample
>>>> printed on Smooth Cotton by IJM/Cone that measures at 1.64 has great
>>>> dynamics and looks like it's a completely different inkset.
>>>> Lately i have heard some people complaining on the lists about flat 
>>>> K7
>>>> print results. Have there been any manufacturing issues with the
>>>> Neutral K7?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "nevillelestrange" <cam@> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, I have just installed the Neitral K7 inks on my epson 9600 
>>>>> using
>>>> windows with QTR, the
>>>>> resulting prints look very flat and i am not sure what is wrong. I
>>>> have tried increasing the
>>>>> contrast in Photoshop which works but i would have thought that the
>>>> prints would look a lot
>>>>> better.
>>>>> I have followed Jon Cone's instructions to the t but i am
>>>> stuck.....please help...
>>>>> thanks
>>>>> Cam
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> -
>> Roy Harrington
>> roy@...
>> Black & White Photo Gallery
>> http://www.harrington.com
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