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Re: Question about linearizing a QuadToneRIP Curve

2007-12-08 by scott.romans

Lou, when you linearize a file in the Windows environment, are you ultimately creating a 
new profile and then soft-proofing AND Printing with this profile (ie, selecting print "Proof" 
rather than "Document")? Or when you linearize do you end up with a new curve 
associated with your specific paper that you can select in "curves" field of the QTR 
dialogue box?

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Louis Dina" <lou@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmm.....MAC.....I'm out of my element now.  I'm a PC guy and use the 
> QTR Gui interface.  Someone else will need to guide you on this.  
> 
> Lou
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "scott.romans" <scott.romans@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Lou, Thanks so much for the response. I neglected to mention that I 
> am running all this on 
> > Mac OS X, so I don't have the QTR GUI with Curve Creation 
> module/Linearization tab. 
> > Wouldn't that figure! Please let me step back and detail what I do 
> have:
> > 
> > I printed the 21-step wedge w/o any profiling or changes and then 
> spot measured with 
> > PrintFix Pro device. This generated a text file with a list such as 
> follows:
> > 
> > 1	96.76
> > 2	92.53
> > 3	88.14
> > 
> > etc. I saved the list as a text file. The last few values are very 
> bunched up i.e., 20=20.76 
> > and 21=20.75. When I have printed on the Arches paper, I've had 
> best results using the 
> > Moab Entrada FANat Curve, but as these numbers indicate, the shadow 
> detail is a bit 
> > blocked up. I was hoping to get very similar results as are 
> produced with the Moab curve, 
> > but open up the shadow detail.
> > 
> > So I take the txt file, and I can do two things: when I drop it in 
> the QTR-Create-ICC script 
> > in the QTR downloaded Eye-One folder, I get back another txt file, 
> this time with step 
> > values in 5% increments, Density values, and Lab values that match 
> my readings. In 
> > addition, there is the L curve, and I can see where the L's start 
> to curve downward at step 
> > 95 and 100. In addition, I get an icc profile back.
> > 
> > Alternatively, when I drop my original txt in QTR-Linearize-Data, I 
> get back a similar txt 
> > file with the same step, density, LAB, and curve data, but this 
> time the last line reads 
> > "LINEARIZE="96.76 92.53 88.14 ... 20.75". None of the values change 
> from my original 
> > readings. 
> > 
> > Now that I have these files, I am not sure how to use them to 
> accomplish my goal of 
> > opening up the last bit of shadows. I had assumed I would 
> ultimately end up with another 
> > curve to choose from in my QTR printer dialog box that would 
> produce desired results. 
> > Am I supposed to use the txt file with the Linearize message to 
> create a curve or am I 
> > supposed to use the icc profile? If so where do I put these files 
> or how do I use them?
> > 
> > I did try running a print with my QTR-ArchesInfinity.icc profile as 
> both the Proof and as 
> > the Printer Profile (letting Photoshop manage color); in the QTR 
> printer dialog box, I didn't 
> > select any curve because I don't have any new option to choose 
> from.  This generated a 
> > very ugly, muddy print--obviously incorrect. 
> > 
> > If anyone could give guidance on how to properly use the icc 
> profile or the linearize txt file 
> > in a Mac OS X context, I'd be grateful!
> > 
> > Thanks much.
> > 
> > Scott--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Louis Dina" <lou@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Scott,
>

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