QTR-Quadtone RIP

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, guy washburn <guido02474@y...> wrote:
> Hi Roy,
> 
> From the communication I had with Inkjetmall they said
> there were no QTR curves and that the only way to get
> them would be to get a densitometer (and offered to
> sell me one) and do it my self. There was no mention
> of curves to be delivered later.

Hi Guy,

I don't speak for InkJetMall.   But as far as I know the 4000 carts
are just barely if at all available.  No doubt they get a lot of calls
about anything new so they are just offering what they have.

> 
> While at some point I certainly see an OneEye in my
> future it does put up quite a barrier to try them if
> you don't already one a densitometer. What if you
> don't like the ink tone? Will they refund the
> densitometer? I don't think so. 

Getting into the whole custom profiles scene with a densitometer
is no doubt a major investment.  I wouldn't do it JUST to try some
inks but it does raise your whole capability and possibilites for both 
color and B&W printing.

I've seen the inks on a 2200 and would say they are certainly a
very nice tone but you're right that everyone has their own idea
of the ideal tone.  If you have access to a 2200 this might be a
good way to ease into the decision of whether you like the inks.

> 
> I think we all want good access to high quality third
> party inks. Epson has a real good contender for the
> mainstream market with the K3 inks and existing
> support for legacy inks. To continue to thrive the 3rd
> party vendors are going to have to make it easy for
> new customers to try their products. MIS does a fairly
> good job here (at least with Paul's curves -- they too
> seem to be missing the QTR boat), MediaStreet seems to
> be going in the right direction. Cone and Inkjetmall
> after making such a big point of how they will be used
> with QTR and then not delivering curves are not even
> out of the blocks.
> 
> Guy

The main issue with curves/profiles is just that there are so many
combinations.  The more standardized the inks the more
likely there are profiles for them because more people use them.  
Each of the ink suppliers have a different approach.  
MIS with Paul's help has mainly concentrated on
inks designed for the Epson driver.  The other two have inks that
require a RIP of some sort hence they use QTR.

Roy

> 
> 
> --- Roy Harrington <roy@h...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > The K7 inks have been available for test on the
> > 2200.  The inks will be
> > available for the 4000.  The profiles just take a
> > little while but they
> > will provide them.  For those who already have a
> > spectrophotometer
> > I imagine you could get the inks before the profiles
> > are available.
> > Making your own profiles wouldn't be too difficult
> > if you already have
> > done that kind of thing.
> > 
> > Roy
> > 
> > 
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, guy washburn
> > <guido02474@y...> wrote:
> > > I've been talking to them about K7 as well. The
> > idea
> > > of having to spring for a spectrophotometer to try
> > the
> > > inks doesn't seem like great marketing. Didn't Jon
> > > Cone when he was posting about the K7 set several
> > > weeks ago say that they would be providing QTR
> > > profiles for these inks? 
> > > 
> > > Guy
> > >