Oliver and Duane, thanks for your info. Oliver, there is quite a bit that you presented that may be a bit technical for me, but I'll re-read and try to understand. I'm going to still try using QTR to print in color, and here's what I'm thinking: For printing Magenta only: * default ink limit: 85 * black boost: blank Magenta Ink * Density 100 * Limit: blank Otherwise, no changes to gray or toner curves, and no linearization (And I might repeat this, only using Cyan). For printing with Magenta and Yellow (to get Red), I'd do same settings for Magenta and repeat these settings for Yellow. I'll print at 1440x1440 super to get the dot structure I need for my etching plates. I have tried to understand QTR but mostly I'm baffeled by it all, so I'm sort of winging it (trying things without knowing what I'm doing). Any simple advice is appreciated. --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Olivier" <odesmais@...> wrote: > Both. > Printing in essence is a binary process : a drop or no drop (let's put aside dot size for simplicity). On the paper, a color drop alone will render that color. If you lay down 2 drops, both will have their corresponding primary color. Now when many drops are laid down some will be covering or overlapping each other so an M dot will partly cover a Y drop and their will be 4 fractional area coverages: white, Y, M and M+Y (R). This process has been well defined by Neugebauer (for litterature reference) and a CMJN model delivers 16 different > fractional area coverages with their own spectral reflectance. Besides, light reflection is not just the light hits the surface then is either absorbed or reflected, a part is penetrating into the substrate because ink is translucid, scaterred and reflected back out of the paper at any probabilistic point (can be from where it entered or else), as such you have both a substractive and additive color model. The Neugebauer model doesn't not take that into account and is being modified by Yule Nielsen by an empirical factor (let's call it dot gain correction though it's not). QTR can't do that because many factors are unknown. For instance, you can mesure the overall reflectance of a given sample but not the individual fractional area coverages to sum them up. However, you don't either really need it because QTR curve tool partitions inks based on relative density corrected of dot gain. Since many combinations of curves will output the targeted levels (BO would also for instance), all that is needed is to make the overall output linear. Now add one additional variable which is granularity (hope this is the right English word, correct me if wrong), and that becomes another game because there *is* then a single combination that delivers both best achievable linearity and smoothness...but be ready for frustration. > Olivier
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Re: How does the printer / QTR lay down different color inks
2008-02-21 by David
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