I get a chuckle every time I see digital printers looking to emulate a platinum/palladium print with their inkjet printers and ABSOULTELY fail to provide any detail about the print that they what to emulate. Just like the variety of curves, inks sets, paper, etc, there are many variations that make up the color of a platinum/palladium print. Platinum and palladium are no more set than the QTR curves you make. Color will change from printer (person making platinum prints) to printer. If you are looking to copy a particular printers look you will need to do a spot color analysis of his prints. My advice would to learn how to make digital printing negatives and make the actual platinum prints. I'd be happy to include you in a workshop. 25 years experience doing platinum/palladium and now a few more doing digi stuff. Not only will you achieve the color you want but a print that will not carry as much archival baggage as an inkjet. : ) Eric Neilsen Photo 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9 Dallas, TX 75226 214 827-8301 http://ericneilsenphotography.com SKype ejprinter _____ From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joost Horsten Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 9:01 AM To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: emulating platinum/palladium Hi Jason, As I was a bit intrigued your post I checked out the link the Ken provided and I played a bit with the hue/saturation curves he suggested. It turns out that the platinum and platinum curves do not seem to provide any greenish tones at all.... They are more in the warm- brownish area. Isn't that what you're seeking for? I checked a bit the Lab a and Lab b values one gets with these hue/saturation curves, but most of them are around Lab b ~ 5-7 (so towards the yellow, but desaturated enough to use carbon only and not needing yellow) and Lab a ~ 2 (so just a bit towards the red). Such tone should be very easy to achieve by mixing a warm QTR curve and a selenium QTR curve. As a matter of fact, this turns out to be one of my favorite settings of my 2100 + UT3D inks (an inkset that includes a specific selenium toner). (Unfortunately, my 2100 passed away this summer and I am now getting up to speed on my new 3800 + UC inks.) However, I checked the provided QTR curves and there do not seem to be any selenium curves for the 2400. So, you're still on your own to create that. As said in my earlier post, I'm currently working on a selenium curve for the 3800. I'm happy to share it, but it will only work for you as source of inspiration. I'm not sure how serious you are in this, but if toned B&W printing is really your thing, I would seriously consider to set up a dedicated printer with UT3D inks. Joost [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: emulating platinum/palladium
2008-10-09 by E Neilsen
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