QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hey Rob,

Thanks for the tip. Inkjet prints really aren't my thing. I can't
imagine it to be that difficult to create a custom profile. My
impression so far is just, well.. as you said, the documentation is
very obscure. 

When you see what you can do with digital negatives (and I'm not
talking just Pt/Pd or SG prints) you'll probably forget all about the
inkjet - Of course, this is very subjective.

For the time being I'm gonna be looking for some resources. A steer in
the right direction would be helpful. What did you mean by "finding a
pro"?


--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "robert49brake"
<robert49brake@...> wrote:
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "emulsion4ever" <emulsion4ever@>
wrote:
> >
> > After spending a collective total of (probably) over 50 hours trying
> > to get Quadtone RIP to work for me, I'm effectively throwing in the
> > towel.
> 
> Digital Negs in only 50 hours!  Figure another 50 but you might want
to make some 
> prints along the way;)
> 
> In all seriousness QTR can do what you want it to do but you'll
probably want to start 
> from the ground up.  Part of the documentation problem is that QTR
can do so many 
> things and once you get to each new level you're so busy printing
you don't really want to 
> take time to pass on your learning curve.
> 
> I'd start by simply making some prints with QTR, your 3800 and some
EEM ( or whatever 
> Epson is calling their premium matte paper these days--ultra premium
presentation paper 
> matte, I think it is.)  You can find all the necessary stuff in the
3800-UC folder that allows 
> you to print through cool, neutral, sepia and warm profiles.  Play
with the sliders that 
> allow you to mix the profiles.  Essentially just work with the front
end that shows up when 
> you print through the Print Command in Photoshop.
> 
> Use the Basic Tutorial manual for this:
> 
> http://www.quadtonerip.com/Tutorial.pdf 
> 
> Then when you feel comfortable using the base program find another
matte paper that 
> you like and profile that.  You'll have the EEM profiles to compare
it with so you can't get 
> to far off base.  You will have to root around a bit to gather up
current information.  One 
> problem is that there are lots of tutorials around that refer to
lots of old versions and 
> many things have changed, mostly for the better and ease of use. 
Then, when you are 
> comfortable profiling a new paper using an existing paper as a guide
you'll be a lot more 
> comfortable applying that knowledge when you have to start thinking
in reverse for the 
> negatives.
> 
> Put all the top level stuff on hold for a while: things like
increasing tonal smoothnesss and 
> density for negatives by using multi color inks, and so forth.  Work
on just making a 
> decent monotone inkjet print with existing profiles.  Then learn to
profile a new paper.  
> Then play with negatives and work on a simple 21 step greyscale for
the process you 
> want to eventually use.  Then you can go all out and choreograph
individual inks to do 
> anything you want.
> 
> If you gotta see an alt process print tomorrow search this list and
you can probably find a 
> pro to do one up for you. 
> 
> 
> Good luck!
>