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Re: Help!

2008-10-15 by emulsion4ever

Peter,

Absolutely! Will take whatever I can get! :)

Email or phone, which works best. Posting to this forum is fine to. In
fact, to make this quest a bit less ambiguous, I'm going to spend some
time tonight posting very specific questions about the process, and
referencing a document created by Ron Reeder in July 2008.

Will certainly be looking forward to making progress. I'm sure others
stand to benefit as well.

- Daniel

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "grayscale2008" <pm2003@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel!
> 
> Do you still need help?
> 
> I am on the way too to create my curves and perhaps I can help you a
> little bit...
> 
> CU
> 
> Peter
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "emulsion4ever"
> <emulsion4ever@> wrote:
> >
> > After spending a collective total of (probably) over 50 hours trying
> > to get Quadtone RIP to work for me, I'm effectively throwing in the
> > towel. I guess this technology is simply beyond me. Kindly forgive the
> > drama. It's the voice of frustration.
> > 
> > Some background Information:
> > 
> > I'm on a Mac - OSX 10.5 using an Epson 3800, own a T/R densitometer,
> > and printing to Pictorico/Inkpress white film (OHP) (for digital
> > negatives). I first came across QTR a few months back. I was
> > intrigued, but never quote took to it as the documentation was, at
> > best, "non-linear" and at worst, just plain confusing. In the last
> > couple of weeks I figured I'd try my hand at it. I've read every shred
> > of information I could get my hands on. Everything from Ron Reeder's
> > site, some other documents/tutorials I came across, stuff posted on
> > this forum, and the list goes on. Things just don't add up. 
> > 
> > In a nutshell - I simply do not understand the concepts involved in
> > calibrating, linearizing and/or otherwise making good use of this
> > technology. I have no idea how to "interpret" the ink-distribution
> > file and everything I've come across seems to skip steps. I had a
> > college professor like that some 10 years back. That didn't work out
> > either, sadly. But as is the case here, I don't seem to be alone in my
> > frustration.
> > 
> > Would/Could someone take the time to explain how to use this gizmo,
> > step-by-step, as if you were talking to a four year old?
(figuratively).
> > 
> > The questions are endless...
> > 
> > - Does QuadTone RIP print greyscale images using color just by virtue
> > of selecting the appropriate profile from the drop-down list within
> > the print dialogue? 
> > 
> > I ask because I'd like to take advantage of printing greyscale digital
> > negatives in all available colors as it would undoubtedly eliminate
> > the "holes".
> > 
> > - One document I read (I forget the title, but I'm sure folks here
> > will recognize what I'm referring to) says to measure patches off of
> > the calibration print (InkSeparation8.tif) to see where "one ink
> > leaves off and the other can pick up". How does that work in practical
> > terms? Where/how do you "indicate" this in the profile text file?
> > Also, ink density (in my experience/experimentation) isn't always
> > proportionate to "blocking power". I would think that to be part of
> > the point of using multiple colors as each has it's own blocking
> > properties. 
> > 
> > - What's the difference between using 2-greys vs. all 8-greys? 
> > 
> > - What is the concept of linearizing as pertains to QTR? What's the
> > difference between that and the "Grey Curve" setting?
> > 
> > Anyways... As you can see. I have bits & pieces in my head but
> > absolutely nothing cohesive (heh.. probably in more ways then QTR!).
> > But from what I've come across in my research, I'm certainly not
> > alone. I know I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box but I've read
> > posts (both here and on HybridPhoto.com) from folks with Physics and
> > Engineering degrees that found the information difficult to
understand.
> > 
> > Is there any hope? I mean.. Obviously this isn't just a simple
> > question I'm asking. If anyone would be kind enough to take the time,
> > I'm glad to do this by telephone (if that would make things easier)
> > and save a whole lot of typing.
> > 
> > As far as self-help goes, I've certainly done my homework and I'm at
> > the end of the line. And yes, I've read whatever was relevant in the
> > Docs section of this group.
> > 
> > Please forgive the frustrated tone, no offense is intended. I'm at a
> > point where I either delete this thing or bang my head against the
wall!
> > 
> > Thanks for whatever comes!
> > 
> > Daniel
> > 
> > -
> >
>

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