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Excellent information - Re: Dmax = 1.53 on Epson Premium Presentation Matte

2010-01-16 by dawsonmpleasanton

Thank you for that information.  It helps ease my mind somewhat.

In fact, I am referring to "Ultra Premium Presentation Matte" paper.  It looks like you are getting a Dm of 1.57 on that paper.  I have H. Museum Etching as well.  Haven't printed out a calibration ramp on that paper yet.

I find it interesting that the Epson paper loads up so quickly.  It reaches nearly 1.5 somewhere around 50% load and VERY gradually gets to Dmax.  Whereas it seems clear that the other papers are increasing in density right up to 100% load.  Well, maybe not that interesting.  It's why we need to profile the papers, afterall.  Right?

After doing a few more prints since my original post I think I agree with you.  The blacks aren't that bad on Epson matte.  I think it was my initial impression of my first print in going from the dye/pigment inks of my R1800 to pure pigment inks on matte.

Plus the print I made was not really processed optimally and was lacking in contrast.  The result was a print that seemed a little dull and life-less without any black punch.  My subsequent prints have looked pretty good.

Thanks again.

Mike

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "ccolbertbw" <ccolbert@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Below are some readings with K7 inks on a couple of papers. I just copied the last three lines of the QTR profile output.  Nothing systematic or comprehensive.  
> 
> The last time I bought Epson paper, I was amazed they have: 
> 
> Epson Ultra Premium Presentation Paper Matte - a flat matte surface on a bright white non-glare paper.  Yields highly saturated images, while maintaining excellent highlight and shadow detail.  Available in sheets, rolls and posterboard.  Formerly Enhanced Matte.
> 10.3mil - 192gsm - 104  ISO Brightness - 94% Opacity - matte finish - pigment or DuraBrite ink
>  
> Epson Premium Presentation Paper Matte - a heavyweight, bright white ultra-smooth finish for long lasting non-glare photos.  This paper is also great for craft projects, signage and black-and-white photos.     Formerly Matte Paper Heavyweight
> 9.0mil - 167gsm - 97  ISO Brightness - 94% Opacity - matte finish - pigment or dye ink
>  
> Epson Presentation Paper Matte - bright white coated paper for newsletters, flyers and reports.  Formerly Photo Quality Inkjet Paper
> 4.9mil - 102gsm - 90  ISO Brightness - 90% Opacity - matte finish - pigment or dye ink
> 
> I thought your problem might be Ultra versus just regular ol' Premium, but the measurements I got with the Ultra aren't much different than your 1.53.
> 
> In all fairness, the blacks on the Ultra Premium don't look that weak. I was surprised that the numbers were as low as they were.
> 
> Measurements taken with an Eye-One.
> 
> H. Photo Rag:
> 
> 90.00	1.404	23.50	0.36	-0.59	-             L            b  |a                            +
> 95.00	1.545	19.45	0.53	-0.30	-          L                b | a                           +
> 100.00	1.709	15.23	0.27	0.22	-        L                    ba                            +
> 
> H. Museum Etching:
> 
> 96.00	1.448	22.19	0.28	-0.01	-            L               b|a                            +
> 98.00	1.513	20.32	0.48	0.24	-           L                 ba                            +
> 100.00	1.691	15.69	0.44	0.74	-        L                    |ab                           +
> 
>  The Museum etching that I have bleeds severely at this level of black.
> 
> Epson Ultra Premium Presentation Matte:
> 
> 96.00	1.547	19.37	0.94	1.93	-          L                  |  a   b                      +
> 98.00	1.562	18.99	0.85	1.82	-          L                  |  a   b                      +
> 100.00	1.567	18.84	0.99	1.65	-          L                  |  a  b     
> 
> 
> Hope that helps.
> ccolbertbw
>

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